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    Neil and Brian
    I continue to applaud your beliefs but they do fall short of reality .

    Quite correctly the lib Dems will take time, if ever to be a force .

    Although bungling Boris continues, you both miss the point of labour needing to win the seats back up Norf, Scotland , wakes etc
    Many of these seats don't want labour any more than Tory .

    The blue rinse brigade always get out to vote even if they don't know who there voting for
    On the other hand labour supporters just don't vote

    As I said this will allow Tories back In


    On the question. Of Corbyn or Starmer
    A lot of corbyns policies public ownership etc o actually support yet Starmer is really luke warm.

    Corby protects jobs and working class people
    Where as Starmer declined to

    I don't want to see a second rate Tory party elected under labour that's Starmer .

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