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    Most people think we get involved in pointless wars, those with no ending with loss of service personnel together with those that lose limbs or are disfigured.

    The Iraq debacle won't be forgotten in a hurry, we were told that it was all about weapons of mass destruction, when none were found Blair trumpeted it was about getting rid of Saddam, ask any Iraqi now and they will say that they were better off under him.

    Afghanistan was the most predictable farce of all. Excuses for were a) breaking up terrorist training camps. b) stop the flow of heroin. C) get rid of the taleban. d) bring democracy to Afghanistan.

    Failure on all 4 counts.

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