Windrush generation
- 16 April 2018 14:58342592Looks like HMG are finally doing something about this travesty.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43780621 - Captain Haddock
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16 April 2018 15:05342593Statement from Minister:- https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2018/04/15/immigration-minister-op-ed-in-the-voice/ Seems reasonable?"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 16 April 2018 15:09342594What will happen to those already wrongly deported?
- Captain Haddock
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16 April 2018 15:31342595If there are any.
Home Offrice has exact figures for both deportations and removals. Difficulty is in enumerating sub-set of 'Windrush immigrants' whatever they might be. What would be your definition?"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 16 April 2018 15:49342596The Home Office are saying that they don't know how many they have deported, which considering that they chartered the planes seems ludicrous.
Arrivals between 1948 and 1971 fit the criteria of Windrush. - Captain Haddock
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16 April 2018 16:01342597Absolute rubbish. There have been no planes 'chartered'. No one has come up with a single person incorrectly deported which is why Amber Rudd has asked people, including Commonwealth Heads of State, to come forward if anyone knows of any because the Home Office certainly does not.
Are you honestly saying that any West Indian picked up, speaking patois, having no National Insurance record, having no record of paying taxes and claiming to have arrived here pre 1971 should NOT be removed?"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 16 April 2018 17:44342609Woeful ignorance being displayed above as all Windrush people came here to work and better themselves and the vast majority were in full employment during their working lives. A chap on the telly recently showed his letter from the Home Office telling him to leave, he also showed all his P60s collected over the years, another who had worked for 40 years and paid taxes denied cancer treatment, a further one lost his job when the new rules came in.
- Captain Haddock
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16 April 2018 19:45342614"My wife's going to the Caribbean."
"Jamaica?"
"No, but the Home Office did."TheThinWhiteDuke, Button and Guest 1713 like this"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 17 April 2018 04:50342619This sounds like the tip of the iceberg. Others now starting to question how on earth the Home Office, with its appalling record keeping and systems can even begin to think it can register 3m odd EU citizens post Brexit. This will run and run.
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17 April 2018 08:51342622This is what happens when you don't have the equivalent of cartes de séjour in a country.Jan Higgins and Reginald Barrington like this"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 17 April 2018 10:10342626Quite agree, Captain. Residence Permits and ID cards are a huge benefit and would go a long way to resolving many of our problems. For all the people who bang on about not carrying an ID card, the very same people are happy to hold a passport - which is the top trump of ID documents!Jan Higgins likes this
- 18 April 2018 18:15342695What an absolute farce.
Disgusted (though honestly not surprised) by the way the Home Office responded when it was revealed that the database of landing cards, which was used to prove arrival dates, had been destroyed. Despite the protestations of experienced staff.
The Home Office acknowledged that the UK Border Agency decided in 2010 to “securely dispose of some documents known as registration slips. These slips provided details of an individual’s date of entry but did not provide any reliable evidence relating to ongoing residence in the UK or their immigration status.”
Officials said in a statement that the decision was taken on data protection grounds, “to ensure that personal data … should not be kept for longer than necessary. Keeping these records would have represented a potential breach of these principles”.
The Home Office added that in deciding immigration cases, it considers alternative documents, such as tax records and utility bills, as evidence of ongoing residency. “The disposal of registration slips would therefore have no bearing on immigration cases whereby Commonwealth citizens are proving residency in the UK.”
Classic bully behaviour. Deny you've done anything wrong then try to point out faults in your victim. (Known as DARVO. Deny. Accuse. Reverse Victim & Offender. As used by classic unaware narcissistic abusive types through the centuries).
Home Office: "Prove you arrived when you say you did or we'll get nasty".
Windrush Person: "You destroyed the evidence of when I arrived".
Home Office: "But we had to. Umm. Something something data protection. Anyway, you should have been the one keeping pieces of paper. So it's your fault. Ooh look, a squirrel".
Data protection grounds my arse. Looks like it was necessary to keep the data contained on them for longer eh?
I'm glad to see that others are now coming forward to point this out as the complete utter balderdash that it is.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/apr/18/whistleblowers-contradict-no-10-over-destroyed-windrush-landing-cardsJohn Buckley and Weird Granny Slater like this