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  Sue - you make no apologies and reckon to be reflecting the truth. That's a dangerous assertion: your truth is very different to mine and takes no account of the variables, as Sheli manages to do. And whether you like it or not, and whether it is your truth or not, it is condescending and patronising. More importantly, simply berating people and attempting to force our own standards onto others will never work and will not achieve anything. If you and I want to achieve anything - and I assume what we want to achieve is fewer teenage pregnancies and fewer dependant youngsters - we need to look at the current moods and standards and how to address them, not our own standards or previous generations standards.

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