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    And a lot of true horror stories too PaulB.

    EU supporters do love to exagerate the trade issue and try to scare people into supporting membership of that expensive dictatorial neo-fascist club.

    We are in a trade deficit with the EU - they benefit from exporting to us more than we do from exporting to them. They will not enter a trade war with us if we withdraw, they would be the losers.

    We do not have to belong to the EU to trade with them. We can be members instead of the wider European Free Trade zone without their expensive dictatorial ways holding us back.

    As for getting out.... I am certain it will happen in time but I agree, because it is easier to scare people into opposing change than to argue a more complex case for change a referendum now to get out would fail. That will change.

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