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    lets not deflect away from the thread, gwyn lost the seat times have moved on, hes not standing again(even if he were allowed to)
    is he the voice of the labour party any more?

    i think it was a little sad he made these comments, whlst no fan of charlie, if he manages to hold seat next time round(and thats a big if) then he should do the best for himself/country/constituency.


    i hope the local labour party will get more involved in positive campaigning in the future, what they would do if in power locally/nationally etc.
    not press releases saying how nasty the tories are, we know all that, we want to know what labour would do differently.

    of course this goes for other parties neg campaigning to

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