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  Dave1 - That is not exactly what he said to be fair. Just because a youngster is seen in a 'hoody' (as one of my sons at times) it does not automatically mean they are anti-social thugs. Me, I would bring back corporal punishment for anti-social thugs and stop providing labels to act as excuses for their behaviour.
  
  DT1 - the fact is that a lot of left-wing reformist ideas go against the strain of hard experience. One example is the way liberal ideas that may be effective with, for instance, nice middle class kids are attempted for hard nosed would be criminals where a good whack would be more effective.

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