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    Sue I think you have missed my point, I am all in favour of free travel for the over 60's it should be on the trains as well. It gets many elderly out that would otherwise be stuck at home.

    My point was against Keith implying that ALL bus companies made big money from it when in fact that is far from true, even though it has given more bums on seats. What they get back from Local and central Government is not as far as I am aware some big pot of gold that Keith seems to think.

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