howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
16:5278653it seems that our friends in liverpool have the highest number of households where nobody works.
the figure is 32%, the question is whether the remaining 68% feel bad at letting the side down.
5 November 2010
16:5478654Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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5 November 2010
17:1278657
Interesting situation though. I imagine the rents must be fairly high there in Liverpool it being a large city and with city centre accomodation being expensive, it could see an exodus of the...I was going to say the working classes..an exodus of the non-working classes from the centre of town, due to this new Coalition governments rent capping policy.

5 November 2010
18:3978676Howard Mcsweeny,
Why on earth should 68% of the people of Liverpool feel bad about anything??
It was not them that got rid of dock work, ship building, heavy industries, any industy it was successive governments.
Am not sure what Liverpools claim to fame is exactly, and dont mention the bloody beatles or I shall scream!! If there is no work, then there is no work. Does not matter whether you live in a council house or the Liver birds building the end result is the same.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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5 November 2010
19:0378686i think you are being unfair on the scouse community here jimmy.
32% despite their strong desire to to a hard and honest days work, have relinquished their posts leaving the 68% to take all the best jobs, have the most expensive curly perms and white sweatshirts.
the remaining 68% should be named and shamed in my view.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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5 November 2010
19:3478700Howard, I assume you are being humerous! Liverpool is one example among many in Britain of what 13 years of New Labour did. I stayed in Liverpool in the 90's, and liked the people.
I remember the lady at the B/B bitterly telling me with sorrow that the lovely church opposite was going to be knocked down, and many really wanted it to stay. That was shortly before New Labour got in, though. It was a typical CE church.
Just some memories of Liverpool, Howard.

Keith Sansum1
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5 November 2010
19:4878702Alexander
I think you will find the council in Liverpool has been lib dem run
not now thankfully
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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5 November 2010
21:2478716I did work in the ship yards up there about 15years ago, I hired what men we needed to do a refit of a P&O SHIP,And I can tell you from the very first day all the men I hired from Liverpool was there dead on 0700hrs and they were some of the best tradesman I have ever had working with me they were very good and also great lads and it made my job of runing the show so easy.

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6 November 2010
08:3778744Jimmy; it was successive Trade Unions and their restrictive practices that closed down the work up there, not successive Governments.
Roger
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6 November 2010
08:4578746Quite correct Roger - The Unions have a lot to answer for.
Keith Sansum1
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6 November 2010
11:4378760Don't agree wth you roger and barryw
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6 November 2010
15:0878769Roger & Barry,
You really must take a look at history through a clear glass. It has bugger all to do with unions. Only bad government both labour and conservstive. Also the fact that back in the fifties & sixties governments of both parties were falling over themselves to bring people here from the newly "Freed" colonies to teach them science, engineering, heavy industrial skills, the list is endless all so they could return to there own countries and set up in business in competition against us. A classic example are the japs who came over here to study how we made motor cycles, and the rest of the industrial world I may add.
It really is a nonsense, and really ought to be beyond cheap point scoring in the 21st century to blame the unions who after all were only trying to protect their members from government policy of the day. Not a dig at you Barry but a plea for a common sense approach, not to much to ask is it??
Ross Miller
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6 November 2010
15:0878770Not just Unions, but also politicians and pi55 poor management in many British business that went to the wall.
Keith, I am and have always been a trade unionist, but you need to take the rose tinted glasses off and recognise the bad as well as good that unions have done over the years. There are numerous businesses that bloody minded trade union officials and unthinking memberships have damaged over the years, sadly they were often driven to this by inept and incompetent management who assisted greatly in the demise of those businesses through their total lack of business acumen and industrial relations finesse.
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6 November 2010
15:12787716 November 2010
16:0878778'it could see an exodus of the...I was going to say the working classes..an exodus of the non-working classes from the centre of town'
And I foresee barricades on the Wirral !!!!!!!