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    quite right paulb and keith, the message being clearly sent is that prison is a less and less likely option for our judiciary to dish out to burglars and the like.

    i go along with keith about community based sentences for low level offending, i do not consider breaking into someone else's home low level though.

    we have debated this many times but this time the justice secretary is really just trying to impress his masters by saving money and looking good in front of dave.

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