Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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20 October 2010
22:4975832#1
After watching this evenings news I was more wound up as I've ever been.
We have to tighten our belts, cuts nationwide,forces being slashed,benefits to be cut, this that and the other......OK fine and then I watch on for them to tell me about poor old Wayne the Roo, will he or won't he play for Man U.
God has this country gone mad?
WE ALL GET A SMACK IN THE MOUTH WITH CUTS, JOB LOSSES AND GOD KNOWS WHAT ELSE, and the nation is worried about a pillock on £100,000 a week for playing football.
Oh my heart bleeds for the man, should we all chip in and pay for an early retirement for him?
Sorry rant over. I live in Dover, I now feel miserable.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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21 October 2010
07:0675844#2
The country hasn`t gone mad Ian, it`s the irritating media at work again. I`m not sure what percentage of the population finds interest in this tripe, but it`s just a repeat of the George Best theme of the early 70s. Let me just make myself clearer here, I`m totally against all this big money in football, one reason that I no longer have interest in the game, treating some of them like gods. But why does the media have to go on and on and on. Anyway, good morning Ian and sorry to have missed you the other week at the cider festival mate. Have to make sure I get the next one right.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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21 October 2010
07:1275845#3
Ian Im afraid you have undersold Mr Rooney by 90%. Thats quite a cut you have given him there, even HMG couldnt get away with that one.
The guy wants £1,000,000 a week to play football...(not £100,000) you left a zero out and a comma out and very important zero and comma it was too. But Jeez your right the country has gone mad. Its like we are living hand in hand with an alternative dream world of fantasy vast riches, we see it but we cant touch. While the rest of us go shuffling around from factory gate to factory gate, in search of a lowly job that probably pays peanuts.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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21 October 2010
07:1875846#4
I could not agree more Ian. The top footballers get monopoly money for running round a field kicking a ball now and then. The world has truely gone mad.
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21 October 2010
08:4175850#5
He does have Colleen to deal with - I know what an expensive wife can cost!
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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21 October 2010
10:2875855#6
Ian, my answer to these football magnates is that I would bury the TV in the garden if I had one!
21 October 2010
11:2075868#7
Paul, can it really be right that he is wanting a million a week for playing footie? I heard this morning that he is complaining that his club is playing new youngsters rather than "stars". I seem to remember that he started as a youngster....
As for Colleen, I think she has quite a career of her own, and to be honest she is a lot more personable than he is, and probably works harder too.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 October 2010
11:5575881#8
i feel a bit sorry for wayne, the "lady of the night" that entertained him, charges him extra as an "ugly tax".
not very good for his ego.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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21 October 2010
13:4275884#9
ON footy, Jmmy hill has a lot to answer for !!!!
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21 October 2010
15:3075892#10
Jan is right it is monopoly money
There isn't a major club that is not financially overstretched. My club (yes all have a laugh) is Portsmouth which I supported as a boy going into the ground for 1shilling and sixpence and having schoolboy trials at Fratton Park.
Their plight is well documented and still in administration and hoping to find someone to bankroll them.
I cannot understand the high transfer fees when in fact the player is after five or so years "out of contract" and is worth nothing financially to the club. I think "contract periods" were introduced so that the player would have freedom of workplace (i.e not contracted for life to one club) which I can fully support.
From a business angle it does not make sense to pay these £30million plus fees for what seems a relatively short contract period when the "investment" becomes zero....This plus the excessive wages must be a large part of reason for the financial plight of many clubs.
Rooney gets up my nose when he plays for England and dosn't even have the respect of singing (or opening mouth) for the National Anthem. I put this point some time ago on the FA comment site and was told "He is metally concentrating on the game ahead".If selected for your country should show some gusto of National Anthem...the England Rugby Boys do.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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21 October 2010
15:3575894#11
I won`t laugh at `Pompey`Pat. I spent lodging turns down at Eastleigh and Southampton on the railway, and they have a great following down there.
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21 October 2010
15:3975895#12
Ians "rant" is right - the world is insane to pay those ball-kicking eejits so much when there is so much poverty and want. The "market forces" argument just doesn't wash with this one. Shame on those who take it as well - I know how hard it would be to turn down good money for playing with a ball, but I genuinely don't think I could take it!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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21 October 2010
15:4175897#13
ownership of major football clubs is all about ego from the billionaire owners, they know they are throwing money away.
pat mentions contracts, man utd have made a serious mistake of not getting wayne rooney to sign a new 5 year contract very year.
this is what happens at most clubs, it stops the over greedy ones getting a free transfer at the end of a contract and being able to negotiate massive wages(sol campell is an expert at this).
the last truly sensible owner of a football club was alan sugar who was vilified by spurs fans for not spending enough money on players.
he got the club back in the black at the bank and commented when he resigned "without me, spurs would have been playing in the car park by now".
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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23 October 2010
07:5976188#14
Well we now have had the the biggest U-Turn in football history. Despite slagging Manchester Utd off for most of the week, so much so that even hard nosed Sir Alex Ferguson assumed a bewildered 'shocked rabbit in headlights' look at the press conferences and was lost for words...but gadzooks! what happens then. Well the little b*gger goes and signs up again for the club having suitably upped the financial ante.
Yes Diana youre right I did somewhat overstate the wage bill but instead of a million a week, I should have said £1,000,000 a month...which is his new deal according to the newspapers today...or to put it another way...£250,000 a week.
A "Victory for Greed" screams the headlines. Its all bizarre. The city of Manchester is feeling the pain of recession with thousands and thousands of people losing their jobs there, and here we have the other side of the coin...proof of the existence of a parallel universe.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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23 October 2010
08:1376191#15
No wonder football clubs are in financial trouble having to pay wages like that. Some of their fans/followers would be happy to recieve 10% of that a year never mind a month.
Maybe the football fanatics amongst you can answer this one...........Would you stop watching Manchester United if Rooney or any other highly paid player left the club?
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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23 October 2010
08:2676192#16
As I said in post 9 Jimmy hill has a lot to answer for.
clubs are struggling at every level and I for one seeing good clubs go under not able to compete in this mad football age.
How long can football survive in this mad world?
of course the big clubs sell out every week and continue down this road.
I can't see it ever happening but unless we have a shake up football fans will be the losers.
By the way although I watch my local town club, I have also supported Q.P.R. right back in the fairs cup days.
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23 October 2010
08:3676195#17
Well it looks as if could be the end of my club (Pompey) as the past owner (who did little for the club other than his ego) wants a higher slice than the Administrator concluded with all of the creditors (including HMC).
As Howard said in post 13 it is a billionaires throwing money away game. However those clubs that do not get the Billionaire owner prepared to do this can no longer compete in top level football
Crazy as the sport will suffer in the longterm
Guest 667- Registered: 6 Apr 2008
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23 October 2010
08:4976196#18
Ian I love my football as you know but I have to agree with you 100%.
Top flight football is killing the game with players and their agents demanding silly money. Clubs cannot afford it and that is why some are going under. The smaller clubs try to keep up with the big clubs and it works its way down the leagues to the grass roots of the game.
Until the governing bodies of football step in and stop this fiasco players like Rooney will keep demanding silly money and football will keep suffering.
23 October 2010
10:3176208#19
Paul B, I note your comment about people going from factory to factory looking for a job. If only that were true, I mean the existance of factories that is.
It has been a long time since Dover has had a factory of any description , but am afraid to say it is not likely to re occur in the near or distant future.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 October 2010
12:0876216#20
i think it is a bit of brinkmanship from portsmouth, a club with a history like that would never be allowed to go under.
i suspect that the previous owner is trying it on, when he sees that he could end up with nothing he will drop his demands.
i believe that new rules are coming in to stop clubs running at huge operating losses, that will put the brakes on the russian oligarchs and oil rich sheiks.