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...America company? Asked Rock Center's Brian Williams of Apple's CEO Tim Cook...
"...The iPad, iPhone and iPod are currently made by Taiwanese company Foxconn, with actual manufacturing taking place in China...."
"Foxconn, which also makes the Kindle, PlayStation 3, Wii U and Xbox 360, is the world's largest maker of electronic components, but has been involved in several controversies. Most of these relate to how it manages its employees in China, where it is
the country's largest private sector employer."
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/apple-peel-mac-production-away-082011707.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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England! Scotland! Just completing your thread's title, Tom.
Wales or Ireland too.
Answer, because our minimum wage would be too high. Funny world, this!
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Worse than that Alexander, if you were to read the piece. Not high wages, but lost skills.
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Right you are, Tom! Last night I overlooked the last sentence in the link's article; in fact, the lost skills topic is very concerning.
My economic programme does include training courses for all essential skills at local and national level and the re-introduction of our lost industries.
This would involve local economic boards communicating with each other at national level to bring back the lost production in textiles, electronics and so much more, and to distribute the production nationwide on a fair basis.
For example, not just in the South East of England, but from Skara Brae in Orkney to Dover in Kent, covering the whole length of our common Island(s).
These economic boards at local level would introduce training courses and ensure factories are built/rented/purchased, and the machinery supplied for production. Private-enterprise participation is welcome, but not essential.
One condition in the project is that no existing sphere of British production would be shoved out of the market, and no attempt would be made to curtail future free enterprise expansion in Britain once these economic spheres of production were re-embedded and re-established.
But an initial State involvement at the level of Central and Local Government would be inevitable just to start the programme and get it on track.
Barry calls this all "communism", and says that no-one should interfere with free enterprise.
Question is: WHAT free enterprise, when we have hardly any left, and the skills are missing?
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Sounds entirely like communism !
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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OK, Paul, it's not. But, out of interest, where do you buy electronics made in Britain?
We invented everything, here in Britain, from morse-code to telephones, from radio to TVs, from fax to computers, we sell nothing of it abroad, and import everything.
Of-course, we could just let them continue gambling everything away, these "economists" who took over, and ruin us completely, or we could start re-building our Economy on a sane foundation.
This latter is where my efforts are dedicated. We Will Win!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Most things are made abroad Alexander, for one reason and one reason only - labour-costs. How do you propose to get them down to third-world and China, levels ?
Roger
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by paying third world wages and not paying any tax.
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You do read a lot of what is written here Brian, that is obvious.
Tim Cook, in citing skill shortage, may only be trying to throw the ball the Government's way, but it is his company's doing, and they are not alone.
What sticks in the craw is that he and the rest are quite happy to sell their wares within a market they do so little to support. Yet some must scrimp and save, wheel and deal, to get their hands on his latest product, products that have taken on the methodology of pharmaceuticals with each little tweak spoken of as a whole new must-have-product, only for these poor consumers to be castigated for not spending their money as others wish.
The fascinating point is that this Taiwanese company uses/controls China's largest private sector employer. And with China buying up so much of the raw material resources used in electronic manufacture, Parliament's master-plan of having us dressed with lamp shades for hats working in the paddy fields of local flood planes shall come to pass.
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"Those jobs aren't coming back."
That's what Steve Jobs reportedly told President Obama when asked at a dinner in early 2011 whether Apple would consider moving some of its manufacturing from China to the United States.
Jobs' successor, CEO Tim Cook, might have another response for Obama: Yes, we can.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/10562840 Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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tom,it all boils down to rip off britan,you get ripped off with every you do and buy.and it starts and finishes with the goverment.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Roger, in reply to your above question, I have a detailed way how to solve the problem of wage differences between Britain and countries such as China, but it is confidential.
I'm afraid we'll have to wait till the EU has crashed first, because if someone found a way of applying economic strategy to mend the EU, we'd be stuck in that system of "we're all in it together" for a long time yet.
In fact, my basic principle is: "we're not all in this together".
Each country to their own, and only when our employment market is not taken away from Britain's People can we talk of any economic strategy to be applied.
What's the point in creating a few million jobs in the manufacturing industry and agriculture, if 80% of them then go to agencies employing Eastern Europeans? All we'd get is a surge in rent, education and NHS costs, plus all the child benefit that then must be paid out to their families.
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I agree with what you haven't said Alexander and most of what you have said.
Roger
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I think the balance will just tip, Roger. Some time in the future when the next country starts sending over hundreds of thousands of people in search of minimum-paid work, to add to what we already have. I'd say it might be the Bulgarians.
Even the planet-remote LibDems, those who are still left, will be demanding an EU exit.
In my opinion, the Tories will simply replace the current leadership just to prevent the extinction of their party, and go for an all-out EU exit even without a referendum. At some point the masses of people here will have had enough!
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Things don't work as simply as that Alexander - a pity sometimes.
Roger