Wheres the police???

• Melissa Pile

  • Location: Dover
  26 September 2011     19:47128329
  #1      
  Am i the only one who is tired of seeing the local drunks once again taking over pencester road and park? all with beer in hand and most far gone at 5.30pm this evening its a disgrace and all in full view of the plaque saying offence to drink alcohol fine £400 yet they are blatently mocking this fact , most all arguing with one another making a noise and young kids in tow , so police and social services i think should be around the area.
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  26 September 2011     20:00128336
  #2      
  they had a purge a while back driving the usual suspects out of pencester, their places were taken by by our new european friends.
  
  it appears that the seats by the river are staying with our incomers as evidenced by the beer cans in the river whilst our longstanding thirsty compatriots gather next to the gents toilet.
  
  they were all out of their heads by about 2.30 pm so i shudder to think what they were like at 5.30.
• Guest 694

  • Registered: 22 Mar 2010
  • Posts: 778
  26 September 2011     20:29128340
  #3      
  or if you fancy a blow by blow party.. hit castle street at about 5-6pm most days..
• Guest 698

  • Registered: 28 May 2010
  • Posts: 8,664
  26 September 2011     20:34128341
  #4      
  The Police will only come if someone calls them, Mel. It's only an offence to continue drinking when ordered to stop by a police officer.
  I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
• Jan Higgins

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 5 Jul 2010
  • Posts: 13,931
  26 September 2011     20:42128344
  #5      
  What amazes me are the number that are drunk by mid-day, I popped into the shop today for a chat at lunchtime and we had two at different times while I was there.
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• Guest 640

  • Registered: 21 Apr 2007
  • Posts: 7,819
  27 September 2011     19:34128472
  #6      
  Ive just had the following email from our local PC Paul Tutthill himself. He has asked me to put the following up in response to the points made. Many thanks Paul, always delighted to add anything you want at anytime.
  
  
  
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  A number of points have been made in this thread, so hopefully the following information answers most, if not all of them.
  
  
  I'm aware of the problems associated with people drinking alcohol in the town centre area and continue to do what I can to combat these issues. There have also been extra police officers around just lately, as well as my usual Police Community Support Officer colleagues.
  
  
  As Peter mentioned in his post, the offence relating to drinking in public is not the drinking of alcohol in the first place. An offence only occurs when a person fails to comply with a requirement made by an officer to stop and/or to surrender the drink within a designated public place (DPP). Should the person fail to comply with the requirement, then depending on the circumstances the person can be dealt with by the issuing of a £50 fixed penalty notice, they can be reported for summons, or they can be arrested. The majority of people do comply with the requirement, however I have taken - and will continue to take - enforcement action against those that don't.
  
  
  For more information on the local DPP (including a map of the areas it covers), have a look at
  http://www.dover.gov.uk/community/community_safety/community_safety/community_safety_unit/designated_public_places.aspx
  
  Just to briefly cover another of the points made... while we will of course attend incidents if we are called to them, there are many more matters that are dealt with during the routine patrolling of areas. In the case of public drinking, the majority of requirements to stop drinking and to surrender alcohol are made without any call being placed to police at all.
  
  If there are any other policing matters relating to the town centre that anyone wants to have a chat with me about, or you'd like to discuss the alcohol consumption issue any further, please feel free to phone me on 01304 218110. If I'm not in the office, leave your number and I'll call you back.
  
  
  Best wishes
  
  
  PC Paul Tutthill
  Neighbourhood Police Constable for the Castle and Town and Pier wards
  email: dover7@msn.com
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  27 September 2011     19:47128474
  #7      
  great stuff from paul in bringing us up to speed, seem to be a few tutthills around the town at the moment.
  
  a legendary campaigning scribe at the mercury and a techno genius that saves the forum from destruction.
  
  maybe they are all the same person, you never see them together do you?
• Guest 663

  • Registered: 20 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 1,136
  27 September 2011     20:16128486
  #8      
  LOL!!!!You are right Howard, but seriously PC Tutthill does a good job for the town and I do no that the job is not an easy one, but it is good to see that he will come on to the Forum and keep us updated on things, communication is a good thing thank you Paul.
• Guest 698

  • Registered: 28 May 2010
  • Posts: 8,664
  27 September 2011     23:27128568
  #9      
  Yes Paul does a great job and has our 100% support.
  I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
• Guest 656

  • Registered: 13 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 2,262
  28 September 2011     00:27128569
  #10      
  Well done PC Tutthill for responding so promptly to the points raised above
• Jan Higgins

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 5 Jul 2010
  • Posts: 13,931
  28 September 2011     09:19128613
  #11      
  Pc Tutthill, a big thank you for keeping us up dated.
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• Melissa Pile

  • Location: Dover
  7 October 2011     17:21130145
  #12      
  I do thank Paul for that email but the fact remains the same problems is always the same people , i was around town the other night after bingo and me and 2 mates were nicely told where to go by a true gentleman with drink in hand after he watched us at a near by atm now im not a scaredy pants or no weeping willow, but at that time of night i noticed some elderly ladies passing near by and i wonder how they would of felt???????????????
• howard mcsweeney1

  • Location: Dover
  • Registered: 12 Mar 2008
  • Posts: 62,352
  7 October 2011     17:28130146
  #13      
  i rarely bother going into town at night, you can have a good evening then have it ruined by idiots that mel describes.
  
  sadly that is the state of town centres everywhere and i don't see any sign of it changing.
• Alan Taylor

  • Location: Dover
  7 October 2011     18:10130152
  #14      
  Policing from behind a desk again send an E-Mail and hope it goes away not good enough, we all pay Council Tax and so much goes to the police but we don't see any return