Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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When we get out of the EU
What laws and agreements that cum from membership, and run-up to membership
Of the EU would you like to see stay and what should go?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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difficult to know as most of us don't know what are e.u. laws, most countries tend to cherry pick which ones they will obey anyway.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Well will we keep the human rights act?
Will we reinstate capital punishment?
Controlled fishing
Farming policy
Finance
Employment law
This country could be a very different place
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't think the human rights act has much to do with the e.u, capital punishment will never be restored for many reasons.
fishing rights would be up for negotiation hopefully, employment law is biased towards the worker under e.u. laws than under u.k. laws.
wouldn't like to say over finance and agriculture, the latter industry would still be controlled by the major supermarkets whether we are in or out.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#2, our benighted civil service does not cherry-pick but adopts everything emanating from Brussels without question, and to add insult to injury, gold-plates much of those 'laws'. My view (and I'm not a constitutional lawyer) is that any minister or civil servant who enshrines EU decrees into UK law without parliamentary consent is guilty of an attack on the sovereignty of our nation.
That used to be called treason, and, were it not for the ECHR and the HRA, would still attract the death penalty.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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protect human rights and fundamental freedoms in Europe. Drafted in 1950 by the then newly formed Council of Europe,[3] the convention entered into force on 3 September 1953. All Council of Europe member states are party to the Convention and new members are expected to ratify the convention at the earliest opportunity.[4]
The Convention established the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR). Any person who feels his or her rights have been violated under the Convention by a state party can take a case to the Court. Judgements finding violations are binding on the States concerned and they are obliged to execute them
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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So?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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getting back to no.2 i should have worded it as "most countries cherry pick".
the free movement of labour is just one.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, there is no desire on the part of the Establishment for Britain to leave the EU, they have turned it all into staying in the EU and staying in the EU. Two sole options. They will not give the People a in/out vote.
The EU will simply collapse, things will get worse and worse until the whole system collapses.
We must just hold out till the end!
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Alexander there is a campaign to only vote for MPs that will give the British people a say, I do live in hope
But I think we may see the end of the Euro especially after the French vote
Theirs strong feelings in the Tory party for out, and grass roots labour are having second thoughts,
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Vote for whom you will, Keith. It don't bother me what the MP says or doesn't say!
They have decided to punish us, and they will never let you or me participate in anything concerning Democracy.
We are in a failed system, it must end, it will end. It is bankrupt, and destined to become more so, while the rich get stink richer.
By the way, Keith, I did my part distributing leaflets in Western Dover for a referendum on the EU, must have been 1 year 4 months ago, it was voluntary work for The Pledge, who had contacted me. So when I sent them an email asking to know how many replies came through to them from Dover (the leaflets had a free-post return slip), The Pledge could not even be bothered to reply!
Not even to say one person sent their signature, or ten people, or one hundred people.
If they had replied, and there had been a response worth mentioning, I'd have gone on distributing leaflets all through Kent!
They were not bothered in telling me.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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As the bills keep growing for ordinary people to keep up with the mass of EU bull sh—.
It will become a bigger political issue.
You may have been upset by your Experience ,but you are political and will continue to bang the drum, we are what we are.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i think the union will crumble slowly after the currency has collapsed, so no great need for a referendum i think.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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But I won't be banging the drum with any of these political parties.
Democracy is first and foremost the participation of many, and abiding to set regulations.
Once you cannot see anymore what regulations they are abiding to, and see that your voice does not count, you will then see what they lead us into.
They do not love us, they despise and punish us.
And remember, Keith, that to justify this, they will always blame each other! Then they will have a great laugh together, a silly question-time pantomime to annoy everyone, cash in their salary and profits from whatever private business they are running, and get back to dealing another set of bitter cards out to us.
They will make sure the rich get richer, and look for their gravy train too for when they leave politics.. Try to remember Dave's iron-cast promise, Keith!
It is more likely they will cash-in on EU subsidies for their private businesses!
Guest 725- Registered: 7 Oct 2011
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Notwithstanding the fact that the eu is totally undemocratic and run by unelected soandso's we really don't need the eu to mess up the UK. We are quite capable of doing that ourselves thank you very much.
Click on the graph on the left of the page on the link below. Do so at your peril as you may find sleep rather difficult.
http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-12-04/markets/30473957_1_household-debt-uk-safe-haven
