23 August 2010
20:3466953#1
This is now becoming annoying
I was under the impression that a child becomes an adult when they are 18 and old enough to vote and fight for this country- when did this change?
As recently I have booked a holiday for me and my son, as he is 15 he is charged as an adult - based on 2 adults sharing, and not offered anything else
I have gone to buy him shoes for the new school term and had to buy mens shoes but he is still a child
I went to get him tickets to go to Thorpe Park tomorrow with friends and had to buy an adult ticket because he is over 12 years old.
And then just a couple of months ago, he had to be assessed to see if he was able to manage his own accounts when he reaches 16 with his disability and they agreed after an interview that he wasn't able to (but what 16 year old would be able to anyway)
These are just a handful of things that have recently annoyed me about this topic - All I can say no wonder the children of today think differently to what we did when I was a child
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 August 2010
20:4266954#2
I was working, had a bank account and was building up savings at age 15 Terrismark!
I know many a youngster of that age much more responsible and able to run accounts than many adults double their age.
The answer to your question is a subjective one as all children mature at different rates.
Some at 18 are incapable of tying their shoe laces.....
All businesses/services have to determine their own business policy towards what age a full price is paid. I do fully understand your frustration though having brought up two sons of my own plus a step son.
A 15 year old takes up the same space on an airplane as a 18 year old, eats as much food etc etc.... A lot of these ages are very arbitary.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 August 2010
21:0066955#3
I went in the Army just before my 16th Birthday
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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23 August 2010
21:0166957#4
you can die for your country and drive a car at 17.
wait another year to be able to buy a drink or vote.
Jan Higgins
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23 August 2010
21:0866959#5
I agree the different ages can be very frustrating.
I believe that everything that qualifies for a child's rate should continue until they are 16 as that is when they can leave school, they have no choice before that.
With regards to his accounts, I do not know what his disability is so cannot comment. My 17 year old grandson has been looking after his account for over a year with no problems so far.
I went to work when I was 16 and definitely did not consider myself a child at that age as I was earning the grand sum of £5. 2s. 6d. a week.
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23 August 2010
21:4766964#6
Doesn't help I suppose, but I considered myself adult at 15. I think my parents took a different view, but what did they know anyway?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 August 2010
22:0866976#7
As I said went in the army at 15years of just a few weeks off 16years,what was I man or boy? the age for voting then I think was 21,owning a car was 18years I think,age for drinking and smoking also 18years.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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23 August 2010
22:0866977#8
As I said went in the army at 15years of just a few weeks off 16years,what was I man or boy? the age for voting then I think was 21,owning a car was 18years I think,age for drinking and smoking also 18years.And last they said you was a man till you got the key of the door and you got that at 21years,you could not go into a pub even with your mum or dad till 18years. But could go in the army at about 16years.And go to war at the age of 17years.
24 August 2010
21:2867082#9
The acceptance of children of 15 into the army during the world wars was no less than child abuse. Outrageous, but not acknowledged until recent times- like PTSD. Some stuff is a bit arbitrary - but charging kids because they take up an adults place is a bit sad - a kid cannot pay an adult fare so shouldn't be charged as if they can even if they take up the same room. Hard on companies, but hey!
Ross Miller
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24 August 2010
21:4667087#10
In answer to the question it really does seem to be a case of who is answering the question. Obviously we all know the legal position regarding the age of majority etc. but when it comes to the provision of goods and services it is really down to the provider.
On a more frivolous note
many of my female friends would suggest that in the case of men the answer is probably never...
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 August 2010
06:4067116#11
That's right Ross.
Tony Blackburn (remember him, with all his corny jokes etc. ?) once said "you're only young once, but you can be immature for ever".
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 August 2010
07:3767122#12
Bern - 18 is the youngest age a soldier serving this country can be sent into active service.
In the wartime period I believe 17 year olds could serve in the front line but younger than that no, unless they lied about their age, something that was quite common.
I too joined the army at 15, the Junior Leaders based in Bovington and at that age you would certainly not be allowed to serve in operational areas, that was in 1970. Though I have to say that those, like me, who volunteer to join the army at that age would have jumped at the chance, the bravado of youth. It certainly was not child abuse, we did not see ourselves as children, but young soldiers in further education for an army career. I am quite sure that Vic will agree with me on that one.
I dont even know if there are still 'junior soldier' units of the same kind taking in 16 year olds. I hope so because it is well worthwhile.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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25 August 2010
08:1767129#13
Boys may turn into men but they still like to play with toys, the difference is they call them gadgets or models not toys.
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Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 August 2010
08:2467131#14
Us boys and our toys, Jan.... we love 'em, whether they are gadgets or indeed as you say models (whether blond or brunette, even red heads)
25 August 2010
08:3167132#15
Lol Barry tut tut