howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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just seen that a planning application has gone in for a 2 storey side and rear extension to provide 10 studio flats(posh term for bedsits).
residents of chaucer crescent and surrounds might like to make representations to their district councillors or make contact with the planning department.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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Although I have not yet seen this latest application, two previous applications converting this former pub into residential use have been approved. As is often the case, developers like to test the waters by getting a sensible plan approved then try and squeeze in a ridiculous amount of flats in the hope that already having planning permission will allow it to creep through. As I said, I have not seen these plans yet but it sounds as if this is what is happening here.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Keith Sansum1
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my old drinking hole
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Jan Higgins
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Studio Flats have their own kitchen and bathroom, bedsits share kitchen and bathroom with several others so are quite different.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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We need more two and three bed flats/apartments, not one.
I know there are a lot of single people who require accommodation; many of them are decent people and space (a decent amount of it) is a real requirement for them.
Flats, bedsits, studios, whatever, if they are too small, will only attract ne're-do-wells and we have enough of them up and around the Folkestone Road.
The "Guidelines for Flat Conversions" needs tightening up; it's what's caused a lot of our problems.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Bad planing decisions was the problem on the folkestone road
together with agencies not working together
and of course lack of interest in these decisions and what they will do for residents living in the area
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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DT1- Location: Dover
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The real problem is that 'planning' is too algorithmic. A 'bedsit' or 'studio flat' in one area is not the same as one in another.
Perhaps Localism is a valid outlook (spot the paradox) in some cases?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we have studio flats in the ward, we recognise them by the piles of rubbish outside.
DT1- Location: Dover
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My point exactly Howard! I've stayed in studio flats in some areas that are worth more than my house.
...and if you put rubbish outside your door on the wrong day (as you suggest, but preferably not on the carpet corridors) you will recieve a number of eloquent complaints.
I spent an hour yesterday trying to explain to a couple why Wetherspoon pubs can work in some towns yet devastate others.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Good no. 9 post Howard.
I agree Darren - in the vast majority of cases it's horses for courses (but not for lasagne or burgers).
Where were you discussing the benefits (and otherwise) of Wetherspoons pubs ? In the new one in Deal perhaps ?
There is a very good Wetherspoons in Edinburgh that doesn't seem to attract rubbish people like ours does.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i was just about to post on the subject of the "sir norman wisdom" pub in deal in response to daz, somehow i don't associates deal with wetherspoons pubs.
hopefully our deal members will give us an idea of public feeling there?
DT1- Location: Dover
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No it wasn't Roger, I don't go in Wetherspoon pubs much. If I was interested in having a drink based on the price I would just stay at home and buy it from Tesco - somewhere else I don't go to.
The Wetherspoons in Cambridge is also very nice, which takes me back to my point of algorithms.
The people I talked to accused me of being a snob, just because I suggested that I went out to the pub for conversation. They also found it weird I hated TVs in pubs.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i am not totally against t.v's in pubs as they are the only way some of us can see top class sporting events, agree that pubs should be about social intercourse generally though.
some years ago when big screens had taken off in pubs i went into one with a group for a birthday booze up and there was a big screen t.v. showing an episode of "casualty", blood and guts everywhere, good saturday night fare.
there was a family glued to it, seemed really strange when they could have stayed indoors to watch it albeit on a smaller screen maybe.
Brian Dixon
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probaly went in there for pie and mash,with a pot of jellied eels on the side.
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MANSER, E. "Wheelwright Arms" - PHOTO of pub + horse bus and passengers (at Dover Museum)
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