Keith Sansum1
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#1
Today I was walking towards the seafront and got close to the yaught club when i watched what i found later to be a man in his late 80's fall down the steps to the pavement.
He clearly was shocked and i went to his aid, and we eventualy(with help from others from the club, and luckily a nurse was close by) we helped the man.
We then found in the fall his wife who was with him had torn all th skin off both her legs blood everywhere.
The kindly nurse took the wife to hospital and the husband went with her.
I went as the first one on the scene to help this chap, before others arrived
what would you do?
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#2
Well done Keith, and the others.
Quite what anybody not part of the hospital team could do I know not. Lessons may need to be learnt, hand-rail wise perhaps.
I hope that with "blood everywhere" the lady's injuries prove to be manageable and that the swift attention they received has lessened their shock.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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#3
Well done, Keith, you did the right thing.
The last time I saw an elderly man on the ground, around 11 pm, he needed my help to get up, and was limping.
It was Winter and he had nowhere to sleep.
After calling 999 to inquire where a shelter could be found, and being told there was none, I ended up demanding a doctor, which promptly came, together with the Police.
They took the man to hospital where he belonged for the night and where they could cure him.
In fact, being Winter and raining, I had explained I wasn't going to leave him alone until they came.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#4
Sequel to the story: the gentleman and his wife are yacht club members and old regulars of Blakes and we know them well. By coincidence I had to take Kathryn to Minor Injuries this afternoon as she had mistaken her thumb for a spring onion which needed chopping. We had a very sociable stay at Buckland Hospital and all injured parties were discharged in good spirits at about 3.45pm. The nurse, Marie, is also a friend of ours.
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Andy B
- Location: dover
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#5
A few weeks ago i was open with a Funfair at Ramsgate,when an elderly gent (84) fell on the pavement close by.Me and my wife and a few others stayed with him and made him as comfortable as poss till the Paramedic arrived almost an hour later.Bare in mind that the Ambulance station is just up the road near Westwood cross.Almost 2 hours later the ambulance arrived.It turned out that the old gent had broken his hip and by now shock was starting to set in and his skin colour was draining.He was a real lovely old man and he spoke all of the time we was with him,immaculatly dressed he was.We found out he was due to go to theatre later that day but unfortunaty he passed away.I,m just glad that we stayed with him and hopefully brought him some comfort.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#6
Peter
Thankyou for your update and im glad both of them are ok.
And well done to the nurse. and of course all those involved
Im glad the story had a happy ending
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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#7
Well done Keith and all concerned
Luckily that is the way most people react to us elderly when we fall, the public help us up and check we are ok.
Peter I hope Kathryn is ok and leaves you to chop the onions in future.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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#8
check to see if the person is awake,dial 3 nines,and talk to the person to keep them awake until paramedics turn up.most people make a mistake of picking them up,it only dose more damage.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#9
luckily brian im first aid trained
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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good point brian, watch what paramedics do on arrival - talk to the patient for a while and get all the information needed before actually touching them.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#11
Sadly these days its also about avoiding compensation claims
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#5
There is much in this sad tale to dishearten, as well as much to applaud. Are not Funfairs an activity licensed by the local authority, and as such should there not be a requirement that emergency services be made aware of an event taking place and should they not then factor-in the heightened risk of the need for their attendance?
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Guest 756- Registered: 6 Jun 2012
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Andy, I am sure his family would be very grateful to you too. How sad that no paramedic bike was available for a quick response. Reading the local press this issue of slow respondance is a growing problem, something we were assured would not happen with the closures of local stations.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#14
Still getting back to the original heading
Its good there still is community spirit
I had never met this gent or his wife before (or all the others that attended)
funny how conversations start lol
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Andy B- Location: dover
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#15
Lesley,i,m sure his family would have been grateful but during much conversation with him he told us that he had no family left,just his friend that was with him,he was 88.Paramedic car was first to attend almost an hour after the incident reported (999),i cannot believe how long it took and as mentioned,around 2 hours before the ambulance came.The poor old gent was more worried about his car left unattended but one of our group took his car to his house and hid the keys as he had requested.The incident happened outside of the funfair on the pavement.The paramedic blamed the slow responce due to it being a bank holiday.All very sad.
Guest 657- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#16
I will echo what everyone else has said, well done Keith.
Oh Andy, what a sad ending to the story.
Peter I hope Kathryn is OK - ouch!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#17
Its funny(in a way_ ) policies and procedures are put in place to stop companies from getting sued
but advice is given that these are rules, wih the full knowledge that if it meant saving a life people would act quite differently.
This is one of many times iv gone to peoples rescue
but i fully understand why people are reluctant to do so
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#18
Don't worry about being sued- your household insurance will usually indemnify you. But in the worst case scenario we are talking about saving lives which matter more than money.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#19
Peter
St. Johns who obviously are well versed in First aid training, when I did my one of many training sessions did advise of the problem of compensation claims, and highlighted how one of there staff was taken that route.
But It won't alter my outlook on helping people, as iv done all my life
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