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  It is really lacking in insight to say that managers are not needed in large organisations, or even small ones! Any organisation needs to be organised, duh! Good managers can save organisations mega-bucks simply by managing resources, including people, well. Not everyone can manage - one of the serious problems with orgs like the NHS is that people are promoted beyond their capabilities because there is no alternative career structure. Nurses who nurse well are not necessarily - I would say are probably not by nature - good at managing the things that need to be managed to maintain the group. Yet the only way for them mto progress realistically is in the management pathway. There is one of the main issues for the public sector orgs.
  
  Good Managers pay for themselves if they are allowed to do their jobs.

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