Welcome Home & pick up your P45
- 5 July 2012 15:08181476Yes it's welcome back home to the members of our Armed Forces when they get back from Afganistan and oh yes before you do anything else just check and see if your P45 has arrived.
What a Government we have, let make cuts and lets do it while we have service personnel on active service must be really good for moral both of those serving and their families. Yes but let's not forget the same Government want to cut the unemployment figures at the same time as throwing people on the scrap heap.
Regimental history and tradition is just being destroyed by those who have never served or know what it is like to be part of such history. Regiments with hundreds of years of battle honours and traditions, family regiments that have seen son follow father for centuries. I just wonder what our lads and lassies must be thinking when they are on the front line these days.
It is not just a case of a few hundred soldiers here and there it is complete Regiments like the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders (Thin Red Line)
with the following Battle Honours
• Cape of Good Hope 1806, Rolica, Vimeira, Corunna, Pyrenees, Nivelle, Nive, Orthes, Toulouse, Peninsula, South Africa 1846-7, 1851-2-3, Alma, Balaklava, Sevastopol, Lucknow, South Africa 1879, Modder River, Paardeberg, South Africa 1899-1902.
• The Great War - Mons, Le Cateau, Retreat from Mons, Marne 1914, 18, Aisne 1914, La Bassée 1914, Messines 1914, 18, Armentières 1914, Ypres 1915, 17, 18, Gravenstafel, St Julien, Frezenberg, Bellewaarde, Festubert 1915, Loos, Somme 1916, 18, Albert 1916, 18, Bazentin, Delville Wood, Pozières, Flers-Courcelette, Morval, Le Transloy, Ancre Heights, Ancre 1916, Arras 1917,18, Scarpe 1917, 18, Arleux, Pilckem, Menin Road, Polygon Wood, Broodseinde, Poelcappelle, Passchendaele, Cambrai 1917,18, St Quentin, Bapaume 1918, Rosières, Lys, Estaires, Hazebrouck, Bailleul, Kemmel, Bethune, Soissonnais-Ourcq, Tardenois, Amiens, Hindenburg Line, Epehy, Canal du Nord, St Quentin Canal, Beaurevoir, Kortrijk, Selle, Sambre, France and Flanders 1914-18, Italy 1917-18, Struma, Doiran 1917,18, Macedonia 1915-18, Gallipoli 1915-16, Rumani, Egypt 1916, Gaza, El Mughar, Nebi Samwil, Jaffa, Palestine 1917-18.
• The Second World War- Somme 1940, Odon, Tourmauville Bridge, Caen, Esquay, Mont Pincon, Quarry Hill, Estry, Falaise, Dives Crossing, Aart, Lower Maas, Meijel, Venlo Pocket, Ourthe, Rhineland, Reichswald, Rhine, Uelzen, Artlenburg, North-West Europe 1940, 44-45, Abyssinia 1941, Sidi Barrani, El Alamein, Medenine, Akarit, Diebel Azzag 1942, Kef Ouiba Pass, Mine de Sedjenane, Medjez Plain, Longstop Hill 1943, North Africa 1940-43, Landing in Sicily, Gerbini, Adrano, Centuripe, Sicily 1943, Termoli, Sangro, Cassino II, Liri Valley, Aquino, Monte Casalino, Monte Spaduro, Monte Grande, Senio, Santerno Crossing, Argenta Gap, Italy 1943-45, Crete, Heraklion, Middle East 1941, North Malaya, Grik Road, Central Malaya, Ipoh, Slim River, Singapore Island, Malaya 1941-42.
• Korean War - Pakchon, Korea 1950-51.
With 16 Victoria Cross recipients - 5 July 2012 15:28181482And hoping to replace them with 15000 T/A !!!Audere est facere.
- 5 July 2012 15:48181488Regarding history, two of the five Regiments to disappear have a specific Dover connection too. Both formed an integral part of Dover life back in their day.
The 2nd Battalion Green Howards were stationed at The Citadel, Western Heights, from 1922 to 1925.
The 2nd Battalion Royal Fusiliers were stationed at the Grand Shaft Barracks, Western Heights, from 1938 to a week after war broke out in September 1939. They were immediately despatched to France to form part of the BEF. - 5 July 2012 16:06181491very sad for the service personnel and also the heritage aspect.
there is increasing use of reservists and they have been shown to do sterling work in troublespots. - Brian Dixon
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5 July 2012 16:12181493along with ian and teds regiment 2 battlion yorkshire regiment.another sad moment of this goverments cut backs. - Alec Sheldon
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5 July 2012 17:58181519The Argylls were the last to use the married quarters at Old Park Barracks before they became council houses (Housing Association ?). - 5 July 2012 18:46181525I have just thought about the Argyll's Motto "Nemo Me Impune Lacessit " (No One Assails Me With Impunity) I think this Government has just done that to them with a dam great Tory cannon. Ceremonial duties only guarding castles what a total disgrace. Well Mr. Cameron should remember soldiers can vote, so I think he should read up on a few regimental mottos..
The best bit is the Argyll & Sutherland Highlanders who are stationed at Canterbury were given the freedom of the City and yet the Canterbury Conservative MP has helped to put all these cuts together. - Brian Dixon
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5 July 2012 19:06181529harry,dont get me started about the tory back stabbers. - 5 July 2012 19:34181532Re post #5.
Ted and I are formally of the 1st Battalion The Prince Of Wales Own Yorkshire Regiment, The 2nd are The Green Howards and the 3rd are The Duke Of Wellingtons. All now formed into the Yorkshire Regiment.
No matter, we have history and men alike all going down the plug hole for the sake of these god damn cuts, and maybe something ahead none of us have seen or realised yet.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet. - 5 July 2012 21:29181554i am gutted another good regiment down the pan f/ing tory,s
Yorkshire Born And Yorkshire Bred - Brian Dixon
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6 July 2012 07:04181581its ok ted you can shout as loud as you like on this one.
- 6 July 2012 07:17181583Another ill-conceived policy unfortunately it does not seem likely to be `another`....`U` turn.
We will have to keep in Europe to defend ourselves........... - 6 July 2012 08:17181586Everybody's favourite geezer at the moment..yes its none other than Defence Minister Philip Hammond, he announced his cuts yesterday in the House and then did the rounds of the TV studios in an effort to justify it all. A fifth of the army is to go...20%, the same number of police are to be axed also...this goverment has a thing about 20%. And cares little for long service or loyalty.
Some talking head on Sky News last night drew attention to the fact that you can now fit the entire armed forces inside Wembley Stadium.
A chilling thought...does the world look safer to you? Is this the time to be cutting back on such a grand scale?
But now they want an army on the cheap. 30,000 reservists were mentioned. These are part time soldiers but the real clever or sneaky bit, depending on your point of view, is that private business pay for it without it seems having little choice. If you are a small business and you have a reservist in your ranks then you may lose than man/woman for up to a year at any given time.
What small business or medium business can do that. None. You would have to replace that man or function below par. In a small business every individual usually plays a vital role. Larger companies may be able to lose a guy here or there but not small to medium ones. As was said last night...the reservist aspect has not been thought through fully.email: dover7@msn.com - 6 July 2012 08:46181588At this rate it will be one Big Army ie a EUROPEN ONE we will not have a British Army as we know now Yorkshire Born And Yorkshire Bred
- 6 July 2012 09:00181590i used to work with a bloke who was in the t.a. used to take his annual leave for training courses and the like.
only 5 of us at the firm so no chance of him being allowed away for long periods and keeping his job. - 6 July 2012 09:15181593The bigger the role the T/A have the more time away from work the volunteers will need, can't see the employers being happy with that.Audere est facere.
- 6 July 2012 21:38181683This would send my Grandfather and father turning in their graves, they are chopping the heart out of our Armed Forces, I know we are no longer an empire but this is like a slap in the face to service personal.
As said an Army on the cheap in thinking a reservist and I mean no disrespect, can have the same time training as a regular soldier has, and their employers will not have the luxury of holding their jobs open for any lengh of time. - Keith Sansum1
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6 July 2012 23:26181694As has been highlighted, the reservists, there are many unanswered questions on how, or if this plan has any thoughts or plans attached to it.
jan;
I wonder what labour will do on this subject when they win the next election? any ideas?ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
