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    Just to add this little bit about retirement age following along from Vic and Harry there.

    On the Conference coverage yesterday there were two journalists chatting with Andrew Neil and they made a very good point. The jobs they are doing they love completely and totally. So the extra year wont make any difference to them,..they love what they are doing. You cant kick those guys out when they are 70 never mind 65 or 66..and thats the point they made. Others, in fact the vast majority of ordinary working class people, are killing themselves in a daily grind without much love for what they are doing. These are the ones who will be hardest hit. The ordinary guy in the ordinary job who has gone through the miserable grind year in year out. This was the point the journalists made. To some its a breeze to others its hell to do that extra year.

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