Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#1
Just completed mine on line and very easy it was too, made me wonder why it is not possible to actually vote on line?
Audere est facere.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#2
I agree Martin, I also did mine on line as I said previously.
I am sure more people would vote if they could do it on line surely it would be just as secure if not more so than taking a card to a polling station.
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#3
That's how I see it Jan, the more people that vote the better, did not see your post but the Forum is so active it is hard to keep up.
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Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#4
Voting over the internet would require an ID card of some description. All in all not a terrible idea though.
I think that the best way to get this sort of 'instant' Democracy is to take the narrow winding path, rather than re-engaging with the recent notion of ID cards and getting there lickety-split.
Probably best to keep the oh-so cumbersome system pro-tem and first engage with the public to think of themselves as an integral part of the Democratic Process.
The first thing I would do is to introduce a real alternative to the single hymn sheet manifesto the present party system is all too content to deliver.
For, under our beloved FPTP voting system it is ONLY that one vote more than the other guy gets that matters.
Going straight to an online voting process requires that all who vote trust the system to tally the votes correctly and trust that any checks be authoritative. A big ask at present.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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#5
Tom, why would we need an ID card, I do not need one for my postal vote and I did not need one when I went in person to vote. As for trust I would have thought an automatic count would be more trustworthy than the present system.
My daughter and partner seldom bother to vote, she said she would if she could use the internet.
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Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#6
Did not need a ID card to register to vote, why would you need one to vote, you would be given a URN and log in using it and cast your vote, can't be that difficult can it?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#7
i think i will stick to the tried and trusted method of walking to the polling booth.
bit of a traditionalist myself.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#8
I always turn out Howard, but as a shift worker it is sometimes difficult, it is reaching those that do not currently vote that would be beneficial.
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#9
I think what worries those running the system Martin is that the gormless mass market would vote if voting went online. What I mean by 'the gormless' is those who know not a jot about politics. On the face of it it sounds good getting more people voting, but I think the political powers that be would have less control over the outcome. It would be unpredictable to a huge degree. The financial markets, the politicians and so on like a bit of certainty..even the pollsters do. But johnny voting alone in his bedroom is a mighty unpredictable beast. I fear thats why we havent had it by now.
Guest 715- Registered: 9 Jun 2011
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#10
Bit like before women got the vote do you mean Paul
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Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#11
I couldnt possibly say anything further..
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#12
I take it, Martin that a URN is a Unique Reference Number?
I doubt whether such a thing would hold back those who attempt to fiddle with the outcome by 'helping' old folk with their postal voting.
I was hoping that voting online might lead to a more open and inclusive system, at a local level to begin with and go on to replace that rather dodgy notion of petitioning.
Divide and rule...again. With Paul reminding us of the horrors of encouraging 'them' to vote. So...while I contend that it is the politicos and their Westminster Village who are content to vie for that one vote, that one seat that gives them the edge. They, this time in the form of PaulB, wish we voters to contend with one another about what sort of person should be encouraged/allowed/discouraged to vote.
If we are not to make voting compulsory why not make the eligibility of receiving pension/any & all benefit/driving license/Library card etc. dependent on being registered to vote and voting?
Whether voting is hard or easy can we not begin by making it worthwhile?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#13
the problem with compulsory voting is that certain people have religious beliefs that preclude them joining in and others simply despise politics and politicians.
i still go with my long term belief that everyone should vote either in person or by proxy with the option "none of the above" on the slip.
that way apathy does not win as everyone has to actually turn of the telly for a minute or two to join in with the society that they live in.
paulb has opened pandora's box with his view on why online voting will not come in very soon.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
#14
howard,you forgot the postel vote.
women voting whatever next.
