Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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26 February 2009
22:2616289#1
On page 34 of the Dover Expre** Today is a campaign being run by DDC KCC and Kent Police to tackle Community Safety Issues in Tower Hamlets and St Radigunds Wards.You can vote for your proirity in what you would like done in these wards.The P.C.S.O. has delievered leaflets and you can vote at DDC offices in Castle Street or at Dover Police Station.
Or at Triangles on Tue 03rd March between 4pm-7pm
or in Curzon Hall on Fri 06th March between 4pm-7pm
DDC,Kent Police and other partners will be in the wards during the week of 16th March to help you with the issues that concern you.There will also be a collection service for White Goods and other rubbish on that day.
We want to know your concerns from Dod Fouling,Rubbish Untaxed or abandoned cars,Street lighting and Drug dealing.We want to know to put it right.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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26 February 2009
22:5116293#2
I have to say, these complaints have been going on as long as I can remember and brought more to the front and vastly talked about since this forum has been going, thank you Paul.
Will anyone actually take any notice now?
Or is this another excercise for us all just to be let down again?
I'm past caring about anything now, been through it so many times. and stabbed in the back.
I must be getting old or a bit like Victor Meldrew
I like the bit about the dod fouling J, I hope it was'nt aimed at anyone.
Ian...
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 February 2009
23:0616299#3
sorry john, this is a public relations exercise.
ian said it all in his last post.
your last paragraph lists the concerns about dog fouling, abandoned and untaxed cars. street lighting and drug dealing.
what are we supposed to say???
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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26 February 2009
23:1916304#4
Thank you Howard. smiley:
All of the problems you point out John, are we supposed to vote on one or many to tackle a particular problem.
WE want them all sorted out....NOT one but ALL.
WHY do we need to vote? CRACK down on it all. ZERO tollerance as we are often told.
Ian...
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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26 February 2009
23:4216306#5
let us not forget the "street scene" farce ian.
my biggest bugbear is the asbo unit, that incidentally does not appear to exist.
remember when we had all those large ads in the town?
all saying don't put up with it, as soon as people decided not to put up with it, the ads disappeared.
the tourosm budget was decimated to pay for it.
result??
nil
our prospective parliamentary candidate crows about how we should not put up with it.
challenge him and the buck is passed.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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26 February 2009
23:5816307#6
This is one of the reasons so many communities resort to vigilanties.
Criminals fear these more than the police, the police have to go by the book and all of the paper work, Vigies just do the job, end of story.
To beg the question.
WILL we ever get what we ask for?
I think the answer is a big resounding NO.
Ian...
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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27 February 2009
00:0716308#7
Sorry H I forgot to mention the ASBO unit.
Are they now non exsisting?
Was that a two year wonder?
I had a lot of dealings and contact with them, lots of talk and secret cameras in coke cans and stuff like that. the only thing they ever did was put a CCTV cam along Barton path for two months, the day after they took it away two cars got torched.
Nothing was ever mentioned about the drug dealing and various other activities. and it is all still going on now, so nothing has changed, Never heard of them since.
A complete farce, at great expense to us.
Ian...
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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27 February 2009
08:5416312#8
Ian/howard
I know you both have strong views on issues around Dover but John is also trying to get things moving in those wards.
Its all to easy to sit back and saY it wont happen, every opportunity should be used to tie these people down, and if they havnt delivered in the past challenge them, thats what these meetings are about.
I know it can be frustrating, but stick at it lads and lassies
Do it for Dover
Guest 668- Registered: 13 Apr 2008
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27 February 2009
12:1316325#9
The main problems in TH are dog poo, rubbish and fire starting up on the scrub land behind.
Do the council need my vote to make them aware of these problems? NO.
Chris
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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27 February 2009
14:2816332#10
Thanks for your comments,I sound like Vic there,first I am in trouble because I forgot Alison the Community Warden who also delievered loads of leaflets,yes we all know the problems and Chris it was myself who got the Dog Bin on Astor Ave when I was told on here we couldn't have one,the fact I wanted 2 and it is in the wrong place is not the point.We aim to raise the profile in Tower Hamlets and we want everyone who lives there to feel part of what is happening.
We work as a team,KCC Councillor DDC councillors Town Councillors,PSCO Community Wardens and others it is not just a Council thing.For instance I meet regularly with Kerry the PSCO and Alison Community Warden,we then talk about the problems and high light these problems and try and get them sorted.
Is the 20mph speed limit working in Tower Hamlets?
Where is rubbish being dumped?
On the dog poo front,is there one animal doing it often and where do the people who let their dogs do live?
Where are there untaxed cars?
For your info today in a road in Tower Hamlets untaxed cars were taken away by operation Cubit.
See we look listen and where possible act,not as individuals but in partnership with each other.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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27 February 2009
20:2916351#11
surely the authorities should act without needing the input of the multitude of people that you mention john.
surely the pcso, community warden and police will see all things when they are doing their rounds.
Brian Dixon
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27 February 2009
20:3316352#12
what police on what rounds.they are to busy doing paper work along with the red tape they have to go through.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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27 February 2009
21:3116366#13
Yes you are right Howard,but some of the things we come across eg Anti-Social behaviour can be worked at at different levels,and pressure can be put in the right area from a number of different ways,you are right the Community Warden walks round the Ward on a daily basis,she wears a uniform,people trust her and tell her things that they would not tell me when I go round,not everyone knows me.
You mentioned the Mural on another forum,well let me tell you how multi-agency it was.
I recieved a phone call from a Mrs Taylor who doesn't live in my Ward,but the path that goes past her property leads to Tower Hamlets,she called me because she had several problems from Anti-Social behaviour,to dirty footpaths to noise,litter and believe it or not a squirrel problem.Yes the Squirrels would go into the flats where they live and tear their lambs wool rugs to pieces.
KCC Warden gave my name,I contacted the Anti Social Behaviour Unit and didn't get very far,contacted the Waste Unit to get the path cleaned regually,contacted the Schools.Contacted KCC to get the Street Light fixed,and asked Cllr Gordon Cowan for some grant money.Asked School to do the Mural,asked the man who garage it was if it was OK and he said yes,but did not want the panels that the School said they would do.Asked another School,they said Yes,ok'ed it with the Garage owner he said OK.
The lady got the trees cut back by contacting the owners and Southern Housing,Camera went up to monitor the area,then the Mural started,help from Dover Decor Centre who gave advice and kept the bill until KCC came up with the money,there was a delay because I am not a company or a project so had to go thru the School.PCSO and the Commuity Warden and I along with the teacher and the Garage owner managed and Supervised the site and the Mayor came and opened it after the 2 lads had done the Mural.Mrs Taylor then talked Southern Housing into putting a fence up,now the problem is not solved but the area has been cleaned up,yes they still have a problem once in a while,but guess what the wall has not been graffitied,and every comment we have had is positive.The Community Warden Alison checks the path daily and if she sees any problems you phones them thru.Partnership working,and just to show you we didn't just throw up the mural.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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27 February 2009
23:3816369#14
lost me a bit there john.
you are talking about everyday problems here, there seems thousands of people involved.
why???
one simple mural and half the population of dover involved.
surely there must be a simpler way,?
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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28 February 2009
00:1516372#15
Howard
Im sure you would welcome an imput to have your say at this meeting, and if the agencies dont perform you can remind them at regular intervals and use j goodwin who im sure will raise your concerns.
Your correct peope like the community warden will pick up issues as they go round, but this is about giving you your say in what the priorities should be for the wards
Surely thats a good thing?
Guest 643- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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28 February 2009
08:5816373#16
John well done for that, a real success story. Howard I think John was just highlighting one particular instance of a job done well, I'm sure there are others.
I go through Tower Hamlets and St Radigunds twice a day in my job. I have to say that every day I see the PCSOs and the community wardens walking around and talking to people. I was impressed by the high profile of these people and thought how reassuring it must be for the locals to know they are around. As John says, people will talk more to people in authority that they know and trust than maybe the police. I also think a lot of people fear repercussions if they report crime to the police whereas a chat with a PCSO 0r warden may be more intimate and low key.
I hope for all the residents sakes that more success stories happen and good luck to all involved.
There's always a little truth behind every "Just kidding", a little emotion behind every "I don't care" and a little pain behind every "I'm ok".
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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28 February 2009
20:4016386#17
i appreciate what you are saying jacqui, we had a brilliant one that was always around and had her finger on the pulse.
sounds like john has similar in tower hamlets.
however unless they catch someone in the act of letting their dog dump on the pavement, littering or treating us to some graffitti, they cannot do anything.
it must be the job of the district council to do the necessary clearing up.
it really does not need a another talking shop to address the problem.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Howard
I think its about the community working together to make in this posting Tower Hamlets etc a better place to live.
ON doo poo mentioned by howard, locals can help on this issue letting the Warden/Pcso know when walkers who let there dogs foul taking small details like where they walk who they may be wot days of week.
Makes everyones job easier, but more important they get caught