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    Cutting through that and avoiding the confrontational bit, I would just like to say that despite disagreeing with some of what Vic says - and that is allowed! - he is always a pleasure to read and it is clear he has Dover at heart. And no, he did not slag anyone off, and I would have been surprised if he had. He has always behaved like a gentleman on this thread, as he did on the coach trip - and similarly, he showed up the others on the coach trip by doing just that.

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