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  Nothing better than open debate, agreed there Keith.
  
  I sympathise with what Jimmy said but few people outside of Councils appreciate just how little power a Council has to get things done. There are just so many bodies to deal with, all with their own agendas and so little money. The DTIZ for instance is entirely dependant upon getting investors to invest in a highly risky and expensive town centre site. The role of the council is to get the planning right (always one for debate and disagreement) and with whatever money they can access de-risk the site to make it more viable and less expensive to develop. Even then it will be entirely up to the market as to whether they actually come and get the job done, no Council control at all, as is actually right and proper.
  
  This is not to excuse them just trying to put into perspective any vitriol directed at the Council and members.
  
  I repeat - if people want to have some influence over these issues then they should come forward and stand for election. If you succeed you will be in the firing line with everyone else thinking they can do better and getting very frustrated with the system. It is not all bad though, you can often make a difference, usually in small things (small but they do matter) and sometimes, yes - you just might get a big win. Even then you will get pot-shots taken at you by know alls who think they can do better. Thats life.

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