Keith Sansum1
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28 December 2010
09:5486623#1
Annouced today councils across Kent have not collected £32million of unpaiid tax bills wonder if Dover is amongst these councis, and if so how much was not collected
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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28 December 2010
10:2586629#2
i bet most of it is people moving house and "forgetting" to tell the council their new abode.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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28 December 2010
10:2686630#3
whatever the reason howard would be interested to know the answer
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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28 December 2010
17:3886674#4
I'm sure I've read reports that around 98% of Council Tax has been collected, similar %age for Councils rents.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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28 December 2010
18:1786681#5
32 million squid
a lot of dosh
in todays climate
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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28 December 2010
23:0786711#6
Nothing new there, it had happened as long as council tax has been collected and it a %age of non-collection is built into the calculations. There is always going to be an element where people go awol, leave the country, DIE, etc and is not cost effective to persue......
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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28 December 2010
23:1786713#7
Do we know the time scale of the £32m, is it multiple years?
It looks like the overall KCC element is about £550m and I think you need to add 40% to that for local councils, parishes, police and fire so £770m per year all together, so even for one year that is a 96% collection rate so that is probably about right for a year
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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29 December 2010
02:0586728#8
Thanks Paul - beat me too it
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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29 December 2010
14:4686771#9
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-12086850
This reports £21m over one year so that make the rate above 97%+
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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29 December 2010
17:3986788#10
As I put in post 4
"I'm sure I've read reports that around 98% of Council Tax has been collected, similar %age for Council's rents."
Roger
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29 December 2010
18:0286790#11
I saw the end of a news item about this on breakfast tv. I think someone being interviewed was saying that quite a bit of the non-payment could be down to people who can't afford to pay but haven't claimed benefits due to them which could help.
So at this level of collection if the council could identify them, by a combination of them claiming benefits to enable them to pay and the allowances available to them reducing the amount due, the council could pay out more and collect less yet still have a better collection rate. Then the missing dosh would just be down to the deliberate evaders and 'administrative drift'.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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29 December 2010
18:1986795#12
this is often forgotten when we talk about the benefits bill.
for every evader there is someone that is entitled to help but doesn't know it or is too proud too claim.
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29 December 2010
20:3086803#13
A good FOI would be how much of our Tax is wasted on endless Freedom of Information Requests just to get some 'news'.....
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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29 December 2010
20:3686804#14
i have always harboured suspicion about the information given in some of the f.o.i requests.
surely in some cases their are two files, the real one and the one made public?
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29 December 2010
22:1986807#15
There is always the assumption that every conversation, decision and bit of information is recorded somewhere, but whether it is easy to get to or still exists is another matter....
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