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    Howard.
    Sorry, but I totally disagree with:-

    "we cannot blame the various councils for closing down the bogs as when they were all open our daytime drinkers felt the need to use a public place"

    If that was ever the reason and I am not convinced of that, shutting things down, removing things or not improving things because of a few drunks, is just plain wrong.

    Keep things open, make improvements and sort out the drunks problem.

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