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Vic, don't make this personal please.
Andy, why the attack on me as a Tory?
As for flag waving Spaniards, well of course, they were supporting Spain. There is NO EU team in the World Cup, if there were, there would be flag wavers for that too.
Getting back to the issue, I don't see how UKIP reconciles advocating getting out of the EU and being patriotic. The very policy of extraction is very likely to have a massively negative financial impact on the UK. Nothing UKIP has said so far gives me any comfort that they know what they are doing, or have any clue as to how they will protect the economy and more importantly us.
Yes I use terms like jingoism and flag waving because that is what UKIP usues to mask the total lack of understanding they have about the impact their policy will have.
I am surprised you cannot see the correlation between reneging on a treaty signed 40 years ago and potenital renegotiations of all other treaties we have been party to. I used a WWII analogy to make the point simple to understand, that is all. Clearly it dosn't matter to UKIP that we turn our back on a commitment made on behalf of our country.
It is just too easy to be populist and say the EU is bad, the EU is expensive, the EU isn't good for Britain. Nothing provided by UKIP so far, convinces me, and obviously the great swathe of British voters, that the one policy UKIP has, has been well thought through enough to warrant support.