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  "I am pro-EU and passionately nationalistic too. They are not mutually exclusve as UKIP would have us believe."
  
  No, Sid, no. Don't start the old Tory scaremongering tactics up again.....you can be pro-EU all you like, but UKIP certainly don't believe being pro-EU means you can't be nationalistic. I'm sure there are millions of people across the continent who take pride in their country and whose ideals are such that Europe is something they can believe in, too.
  
  What I'm on about is taking a bit of pride in our own country - did you see the masses of Spanish flags being waved as Spain won the World Cup final? I didn't see a single EU flag being waved that night, I saw hordes of Spaniards rejoicing in waving their own flag and taking a bit of pride in their own country's success......and that's what scaremongering here doesn't like, as if it's somehow wrong to fly the flag of St George and believe that the mighty and faceless EU is something we can all get behind. Crap! Your phrases such as 'jingoism', 'flag-waving' and 'tomfoolery' are a return to the insults I've had a go at you about previously and there wouldn't be any need for them if your argument wasn't fundamentally flawed because you know full well that the rise of right wing views is because so many people's views are being sidelined.
  
  Your analogy of holding referenda every few years over the surrender terms of WW2 are just another example of the crass insults you find it necessary to dish out every so often and I'm buggered if I know why you find it so necessary to resort to such an emotive analogy as that, except that it's all part of the seemingly innate requirement for Tory politics to pour scorn on all others. "What tosh, I've never heard the like.....": at least we agree on something.

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