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  The Libdems actually lost their deposit again twice last night Alex as i understand it, fairly dreadful for them yet again. Labour had stonking wins in all three seats..Middlesborough, Croydon North and Rotherham. Their majority was down a tad since the last election in Rotherham only, but this was possibly more to do with the last Labour incumbent cheating on his expenses. Their majority increased in Middlesborough and in Croydon Nth.
  
  " The Conservatives do not exist in the north of England any more " said Nigel Farage on a buoyant night where his party UKIP finished second in two of the votes. However a very optimistic headline there Alex claiming them to be the second party. They are nowhere near it. Until they start winning seats they cannot even be regarded as the third party. They have no MPs and I believe have no councillors either.
  
  However where they do score is in robbing the Conservatives of a considerable bulk of their traditional voters...which led to the Michael Fabricant interjection last weekend. Whether these good results are anything more than just a protest vote as BarryW alludes to there is hard to say. They really need to start winning seats, when they do that they could get a solid momentum going, but they need to make that breakthrough fairly soon before the new found enthusiasm fizzles out with the voters.

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