howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#1
courtesy of the independent, doubt if they will get any public sympathy.
London Underground workers are to stage four strikes - one on Boxing Day and three in the new year - in a dispute over bank-holiday pay.
Aslef has been seeking "adequate compensation" for working on Boxing Day. London Underground said the union's "outrageous" claim for triple pay and a day off in lieu of Boxing Day went against an agreement that all unions had signed.
Keith Sansum1
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#2
train drivers (aslef) like the lib dems sold there souls some years ago
to enable drivers to get the wage of £45,000 yes i repeat £45,000
a lot of other valued jobs had to go.
being a sister union the railway employers thrived on causing unrest between the 3 rail unions of course it was in everyones interest to have just 1 union
but the three would never agree, thus the employers had a field day.
having sold everyone down the river now aslef has got over greedy
having been active at top level in one of the unions it was heartbreaking to see a union acting in such a way.
but the never the less you have to work with the tools you have and those who wish you not to reach those aims
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#3
they do seem a self centred bunch, boxing day is when people attend sporting events and go the sales.
i seem to remember they struck a deal not to strike during the olympics.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#4
I think here howard there is a bigger picture here.
if you are just speaking about this one public holiday dispute then yes you are correct
but if your talking more about the union role/solidarity with other unions etc then the picture is far bigger
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#5
i don't see anything other than the behaviour of highwaymen keith.
their jobs are not under threat, no safety issues or differences over pensions.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#6
had hoped you had picked up the theme from my posts
had you seen the way aslef operated in years gone by you would understand
maybe next time i see you on the bus i will explain
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#7
Here's the big picture:
1. Most unions and shop stewards work tirelessly in the interests of both employees and their employers, and receive little or no recognition for a job well done.
2. Some unions get greedy and give all the rest an undeserved bad name.
Fire service and post office come to mind.....z
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#8
not sure what view you hold on the fire service unions?
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Jan Higgins
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I also wondered what Peter meant by the last sentence.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#11
I meant unions whose leaders live the champagne lifestyle while putting their hard working members in conflict with their employers.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#12
Still a bit baffled by that statement
Peter, you have evidence that the fire brigade union alone does this???
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#13
I doubt that the Fire-Brigade Union are alone in their "Champagne Socialist" lifestyle Keith and their own political agendas.
I'm sure, as you implied, that there are quite a number of them.
Roger
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#14
some interesing anti union postings slowly drifting out
interesting,,,,,,, very interesting ,,,,,,,
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#15
Your post number 12 implies that you know they do Keith and that the Fire Brigade union are not alone.
Roger
#16
I think being critical of some unions does not constitute being anti-union! Maybe I have missed something, maybe about free speech and the opportunity to challenge?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#17
roger;
baffled still just followin peters posting that he picked out one union
bit unfair if that was a view i presume thats peters view of all or majority of unions is where i was trying to get the reply on
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#18
Bern
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#19
post 17 says it all
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#20
Actually Keith I picked out two unions, both of which have had adverse publicity after paying their senior people lots of dosh and lavish expenses MP-style.
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