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    BarryW, I so value your plain speaking. I think you get it wrong when you habitually introduce our political views into the threads, because although Politics is everything, it isn't central to all our threads! I think I degree of reflection on your part about this, and about the difference between tippy-toeing and respecting others views, might be helpful...

    I am reminded, by the way, that one of the Fathers Day gifts we bought my Old Man was a chocolate lolly from M&S that asserted "I am always in the right".............

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