Today's demo at eastern docks
- 3 August 2013 20:26239644photos by kind permission of clair hawkins.
addressing the crowd, the photographer looks like it could be local snapper phil medgett.
local reds in attendance with my latest district councillor on the far right!!
clair with r.s.p.c.a chief executive john grounds today.
- 4 August 2013 06:53239681Once again an excellent informative set of pictures. Let us hope that all the demos will help bring an end to this unfortunate exporting. Just a day or so ago in all this blazing heat I saw a small convoy of trucks heading dockwards packed to the rafters with animals. Difficult to know what the demonstrations will achieve as the trading is legal and the Port are obliged to do it.
Great shot there of Clair 'manning the barricades' .email: dover7@msn.com - Keith Sansum1
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4 August 2013 08:44239688Long way from ending sadly as paul b says
hardly anyone wants them going this way, but there you have it
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4 August 2013 09:54239700kieth,all things should be exported live,but you cant allways get wot you want.
- 4 August 2013 10:04239703i believe that an amendment is being tabled to give ports the choice whether they want the business or not.
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4 August 2013 10:08239704That would be a good way forwardALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - Brian Dixon
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4 August 2013 10:14239706so lets put this in perspective.these people want to to see the end of live exports,so they condone murder of an animal so it can be exported in a frezzer lorry on a ferry..not very Christian of them is it. - 4 August 2013 10:15239707Are these beasts being 'exported' to rest homes Brian? Or maybe on holiday.Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
- 4 August 2013 11:27239714Many young Irish cows are shipped to Italy as breeding stock, or to be brought to maturity on Italian farms and then sold as Italian beef.beer the food of the gods
- 4 August 2013 11:30239715Also certain breeds of sheep are shipped abroad for breeding and widening the gene pool in foreign flocks.Most meat destined for the table is shipped chilled or frozen, mainly on grounds of cost.beer the food of the gods
- 4 August 2013 11:39239716As for breeding purposes, we also export Semen and Embryos...
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animal-trade/category/exports/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 4 August 2013 11:43239717And...
"Exports to outside the EU
Exports of animals and animal products ensure UK presence on the global market and thus enhance the political and economic role of the UK. Our role in facilitating Export Health Certificates (EHCs) supports the UK economy and global trade in animals and animal products, whilst also addressing global efficiency in food production, global food supply and relations with food, non-food and farming sectors..."
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animal-trade/exports-non-eu/Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 4 August 2013 12:01239718"Whale meat again...don't know when..."
GM technology is not a pressing concern for consumers.
"Implications for consumers
The report refers to consumer concerns regarding GM technology, stating that they "tend to fluctuate with time, and may increase particularly in response to increased media coverage." The FSA refers to its own research that tracks public attitudes, stating that it "shows GM technology is not a pressing concern for consumers." It reiterates that the tracker has shown a steady decline in concern but notes that this "should be contextualised with consumer belief that the 'problem' had been 'dealt with' and there was therefore nothing to be concerned about".
In addition, the report states that many consumers are "unaware of the extent to which GM feed is used" and notes that there is no legal requirement to label products from animals fed on GM feed. It adds that retailers have differing stated policies regarding the use of the terms 'GM', 'non-GM' and 'GM-free'. The FSA suggests that this can lead to confusion for consumers.
The costs of maintaining non-GM supply chains are "currently absorbed by farmers and feed compounders rather than being passed on to consumers." However it adds that in the longer term these costs may result in increases in the price of products from animals for consumers.
It "may be timely to inform consumers of the issues surrounding GM and non-GM supply chains so that they have a clear understanding of current science, the status of the non-GM market being reliant on only a few exporting countries, and the steady increase in GM production." This leads to the question of who should have responsibility for informing consumers and whether this should be the role of the Government or if retailers should play a part. "
http://www.cropgen.org/article_262.htmlIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 4 August 2013 12:33239719Breeding stock can of course be shipped across on the normal ferries, the ferry companies have no problem with animals being transported as breeding stock.
Not to be confused with live exports which are being shipped across purely for the purpose of being slaughtered at their destination, which is what the demonstrations are about.
I would imagine that the main reason for shipping live animals for slaughter at their destination is to meet the demand for halal meat which has to be slaughtered as follows:
"The food must come from a supplier that uses halal practices. Specifically, the slaughter must be performed by a Muslim, who must precede the slaughter by invoking the name of Allah, most commonly by saying "Bismillah" ("In the name of Allah") and then three times Allah Huakbar. Then, the animal must be slaughtered with a sharp knife by cutting the throat, windpipe and the blood vessels in the neck (while the animal is conscious), causing the animal's death without cutting the spinal cord. Lastly, the blood from the veins must be drained. This final step is performed because blood can harbor harmful bacteria, and also to ensure that there are no blood clots, thus keeping the entire body safe and clean to be eaten."
Live exports have just resumed from Ireland to Libya using the cattle carrier Al Mahmoud.
http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/end-the-live-exports-of-farmed-animals-from-ireland - 4 August 2013 12:46239722I don't know to what extent slaughter practices, which many faiths insist upon, factors in live animal export/import. To my mind it is the desirability of 'home produced' products in the mind of the consumer that drives the trade.
A beast that is born and bred elsewhere can legally be designated 'home produced' in the end-user country after a few weeks pasturing.Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing. - 4 August 2013 17:01239733Or if it is processed in Britain?---------------------------------------------------
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4 August 2013 17:43239734did everyone notice the newly elected labour Cllr there!!ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS - 4 August 2013 20:09239750first post second picture keith, he looks a lot less like sandy richardson in it.
