Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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This cobble together Goverment has 'U' turned so many times in their indecent rush to cut public spending and not once listerned to the general public's alarms and concerns over the disastrous effects, now and in the future on ordinary folks quality of life.
The Ministers of this cobbled together goverment occupy a wealthy bubble oblivious of the hardship their rushed cuts are, an will have on ordinary folk.
If this cobbled together goverment continue to ignore the publics voice this time for required reforms to the 'Health Bill' the inevitable end of this cobbled together goverment will come quicker than expected.

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That's a lot of cobblers, Keith (I'll get my coat.........)

Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Have you actually read the Health and Social Care Bill 2011, Keith, or are your comments based on what you read in the Guardian/Daily Mirror/Daily Worker? Or perhaps on the self-serving propaganda put out by the public sector unions?
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Here's a Summary as supplied by the H of C
Summary of the Bill
The Bill proposes to create an independent NHS Board, promote patient choice, and to reduce NHS administration costs.
Key areas
•establishes an independent NHS Board to allocate resources and provide commissioning guidance
•increases GPs' powers to commission services on behalf of their patients
•strengthens the role of the Care Quality Commission
•develops Monitor, the body that currently regulates NHS foundation trusts, into an economic regulator to oversee aspects of access and competition in the NHS
•cuts the number of health bodies to help meet the Government's commitment to cut NHS administration costs by a third, including abolishing Primary Care Trusts and Strategic Health Authorities.
Marek
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I don't see a problem with any of those objectives. GP practice heads serving 7 million patients have endorsed them, as far as I can see it is the bodies representing the endangered administrators who are objecting.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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peter,actuly it was the comminist times.

Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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I thought the Beano but it would have been rude to say it, so I didn't.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Brian Dixon
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acutly it was the dandy same kind of rag differant slant.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 million patients are a small minority, the vast majority of g.p's do not want to know.
they are not accountants, administrators or entrepreneurs and have no wish to be.
i would like my doctor to spend the time he/she is not treating patients to be reading up on what are the best leeches to prescribe to patients.
Peter has it right in #5. It is the bleating public servants (if only!) who are challenging this. There may be a bit of a wobble in amongst the newbies who will be managing the show, but that is mainly because the public servants being ousted are either too busy trying to find themselves jobs in private/third sector organisation s who don't want them, or failing to manage the transition properly.

Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Most unions and civil servants hate change of any kind be it for the better or not.
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Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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Keith, the cobbled together Government will see the demise of the LibDems.
I doubt they'll get through another general election.
As for the Health Bill, the Government is reviewing hundreds of thousands of incapacity claims, which will inflate the unemployment list, but also bring down the amount paid out on benefits.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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not by very much though, people moved from incapacity benefit to jobseekers allowance will still get their housing costs and council tax paid together with their living costs.
I believe gps should concentrate on spending time with patients , you wouldnt ask a brain surgeon to do some accounting part time
It isn't like that Mel. The GPs will run the business, much as they do now, by employing people. Currently most practices have a practice manager. The Consortia will be that, but on a different scale. And it isn't just GPs who will impact. But it will enable medics to support the prioritising of resources so that, hopefully, medical and care/support issues have a higher profile and are better targeted. The medics unique perspective should help to give a better balance to the process which is currently burdened by too many people who not only fail to understand medical consequences of decisions but are also p*** poor managers!!!!