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    I think most people would agree with those Phil.

    People who lie and they know, that you know, they are lying. Being polite, diplomatic, or maybe it's called tactful, sitting with people who you know are so full of (what's the best word for a family friendly forum ?) nonsense, it makes you want to throw up.

    Lack of honesty - same as above really. I could make a list as long as my arm, but time is moving on.



    Roger

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