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    Without upsetting my old pal john, this goverment like all others has a dilema on how to get people out of there cars and into privatised trains, deregulated buses.

    Train fares are so expensive in relation to a car, and of course in a car you can go from place A to place B without standing around on freezing cold platforms with few staff for help.

    All my life like a few other forumites i travel via buses/trains, but to get such a major change in the mind set is going to take a lot of doing.

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