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  Thanks, Rick, for trampling all over other peoples beliefs and treasured icons. The level of thought and insight you offer is breathtaking. I don't have an opinion about this shroud - why would I? I am not an expert on cloth, just someone with a bit of faith - not blind faith, just standard common or garden faith which isn't especially dependent on religion or the Religious. Frankly I don't much care if the shroud is Jesus' or not - it won't affect my faith one way or another and doesn't impact on my spirtual relationships. But some people do take comfort and warmth from symbols, and why not? You may have some idiocyncratic faiths of your own: perhaps in Humankind or the footy results. Who cares - they will be your beliefs and I wouldn't dream of stamping on them. It also doesn't matter if Jesus walked on water or not - the miracles may even have been the way used by poor or illiterate people to explain or give substance to something they couldn't understand unless it came wrapped in some mystery. You need to understand the times in whcih the gospels were written, the history and the culture and even the languages, to really comprehend the back story, and it isn't all about mysticism and miracles - far from it. It is a political story with power and human interest. But I expect you would prefer to diss it from a distance and from behaind a nicely constructed wall of ignorance rather than read and digest some facts and information.
  
  Ross - the face appears Western because it is an imprint and "negative".

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