The T U C conference

• Guest 745

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  10 September 2013     08:54244139
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  The T U C conference
  
  
  The labour party link
  
  What's the plan ,what's the changes going to be
• howard mcsweeney1

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  10 September 2013     09:03244145
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  you tell us keith, the way i read it the reds want money from the unions but will not give anything in return.
• Guest 745

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  10 September 2013     09:20244150
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  I support well run unions, all the time we have bad bosses we will need unions
  
  Especially with ruthless globalisation
  
  I just don't get the unions supporting a labour party that do not support British working man .
• howard mcsweeney1

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  10 September 2013     09:28244152
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  they did in the first 7 years of their reign with the minimum wage and working tax credits then fixed it so that many jobs were no longer available for people to reap the benefits.
• Keith Sansum1

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  10 September 2013     21:55244224
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  At least we have some agreement that unions are needed that's a good start
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• howard mcsweeney1

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  10 September 2013     22:02244228
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  that is not the issue here keith, it is about whether union dues should be used to fund red ed and chums.
• Keith Sansum1

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  10 September 2013     22:09244230
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  Howard;
  you appear to pick fault at a lot lately,,, but anyway lets look at the issue in hand.
  
  
  Trade unions can (if they so wish) give dosh to ANY political party, not just Labour.
  
  I have explained before that some unions have already made the decision to send less dosh to one political they previously supported.
  
  I think Ms Eagles, and other prominent Labour saying the unions will come running back come the election, if they believe that then they are misguided.
  
  I think it correct (as Ed says) individual members(through the political funds) should decide how that dosh is spent.
  
  This is a fairly big gamble by Ed, one that could actually pay off for him
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• howard mcsweeney1

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  10 September 2013     22:35244239
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  keith
  
  trade unions can give to any party as you say.
  
  do the members have a say though?
• Keith Sansum1

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  10 September 2013     22:39244241
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  That is exactly EDS argument#
  he doesn't believe in trade unions just giving money
  without the say so of its membership.
  
  With this those trade unions that do affiliate the union members don't get involved in the party.
  
  Eds view is that members should have more of say where the union levy is spent
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• Guest 745

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  11 September 2013     08:37244259
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  They should have invited ukip
• Guest 710

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  11 September 2013     09:38244265
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  BTW...
  Southend rail worker who rescued disabled woman escapes punishment
  
  "A railway worker who was suspended after helping to rescue a wheelchair-bound pensioner who fell on to tracks has been reinstated.
  
  The Rail Maritime and Transport (RMT) union said the customer services assistant, working for c2c at Southend-on-Sea, in Essex, will now return to work.
  
  He had faced a disciplinary hearing after suggestions he had failed to follow correct health and safety procedures.
  
  He was helped by three members of the public after the 71-year-old woman fell on to the tracks.
  
  The RMT general secretary, Bob Crow, said after the hearing: "This is a victory for common sense. Our member is a hero who should never have been facing the sack for saving a disabled woman from a life-threatening situation.
  
  "Our member has thanked the union, his work colleagues and the public for all of their support.
  
  "This incident has shown once again how important station staff are to passenger safety and security.""
  http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/10/southend-rail-worker-rescue-woman-pensioner
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• Jan Higgins

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  11 September 2013     09:54244269
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  For the curious like myself a newspaper report on the incident mentioned in Tom's post.
  
  http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/alan-chittock-railway-worker-suspended-2254762
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• Keith Sansum1

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  11 September 2013     20:05244347
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  sense at last good old unions
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