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    Definitely on a loser keefy. To get a traumatised population to vote against being in the UK is one thing, but knowing their vote for same would automatically exclude them from the EU at the same time, would be too big a burden to bear for the electorate... a double whammy of shock, a double whammy of exclusion, that's why tempers are getting frayed.

    I dont have an opinion one way or the other on Scottish independence but I can see how the Scot Nats have miscalculated badly here by not checking this fully before launching their campaign.

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