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    thanks for the rant rick, you appear to have shot yourself in the foot though, the pontiff referred to extreme atheism being similar to the nazis.

    on this forum you, an extreme atheist have advocated burning the bible and koran!!
    sound familiar?

    anyway as a serial unconvinced simpleton i have been captivated by the events of the afternoon and evening, what struck me about the 65,000 people in the park and the estimated 140,000 that lined the route was the sheer pleasure and satisfaction they were getting.

    in an age of cynicism where gaining a few bob, buying the latest flat screen and green currant phone, that people still search for something intangible and spiritual.

    i have to say that the old kraut bloke made a lot of sense in his earlier speech about beliefs being trodden on or sidelined.

    i sincerely believe that all beliefs and creeds including atheists have the right to express their views publicly without fear of ridicule or aggression.

    on a lighter note, reference was made to "the last supper" today, i make no apology in regurgitating this old one, my all time favourite joke.

    jesus arrives and finds the disciples tucking into a chinese takeaway, with many more polystyrene containers still waiting to be opened.
    aghast he cries "i cannot afford to pay for all this"!! the reply comes back "no probs master, judas has just come into some money".

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