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  Gary I am the one saying that there is no 'fair' definition of 'fair' - what is fair to one person is unfair to another.
  
  I consider it grossly unfair that I have to work hard, pay £17k in tax for that money to be given to others to sit on their fat backsides doing nothing through the excessive benefits being paid.
  
  As for greed - without to impulse to gain, accumulate and improve your circumstances we would still be in the stone age. This is one of the basic drivers in life. It is what helps turn small businesses into big businesses with all the wealth and employment they provide. It is why people start businesses. It is why people (most people) work.
  
  If it was just about having what is needed for 'basic survival and comfort' then we should all give up working and be looked after by the benefits system.
  
  Basic comforts are not enough for me and, I suspect, most people. If it was just about that then there would be a lot more unemployed around among those who manufacture and sell high value quality products.
  
  Life would be so boring if we all adopted your idea of what life should be all about. Thankfully the human race is varied and different.
  
  I will tell you something else. It is no business of yours, or indeed mine, what other people are paid unless we are paying the bill through our taxes or as business owners.
  
  Define fraud - obtaining goods or services through deceit. It is a matter of the law. I have never condoned law breaking.

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