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    BarryW.
    Define "fraud"?
    Define "greed"?

    Thankfully, I believe you are in a minority that believe, in your words "what you call greed is also human nature". It probably is in the circles that you live in.

    However, most humans think that greed is un-natural, even a deadly sin.

    Wikipedia
    "Greed is the inordinate desire to possess wealth, goods, or objects of abstract value with the intention to keep it for one's self, far beyond the dictates of basic survival and comfort. It is applied to a markedly high desire for and pursuit of wealth, status, and power.

    My interpretation of greed is summed up in the paragraph above, beyond "basic survival and comfort".
    Many are struggling to achieve that basic survival and comfort today, when others are lavishing themselves with wealth.
    That's not envy, that's not jealousy, in my opinion that's simple greed.

    Those in between basic survival and the greedy, are on the whole, doing a very good job of trying to keep the wheels turning, under very difficult circumstances.
    Many Bussines's, many bosses and many workers in this country, care about the economy and care about their fellow human being.

    Some, IE. The greedy, care not, but for themselves.

    Myself and others have offered our interpretation, what's yours?

    Or of course, you can continue to ignore or avoid the posts like, DT1 #18, on this thread, like you usually do.

    Peter.
    I miss your sensible debate on these threads, I suspect my posts are part of your reluctance to join in, so please accept my apologies.
    However, I will not become part of the "oh, it's only BarryW ignore him brigade" and I will not apologise for that.

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