howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 January 2010
23:0838714#1
a cabinet minister on the box yesterday "inadvertently" named the election date as the 6th of may, previously another minister had said the same.
both claimed that they had made a slip of the tongue.
i reckon it was a clumsy attempt to wrongfoot the blues.
our barry boasts that the blues have a warchest with a value similar to the crown jewels, whilst the reds would have to pawn alistair darling to pay for a few posters.
could be a ploy to make boy dave and his etonian mate to hang on to the money and spread it out.
then gordon announces the election date as in march/april.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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24 January 2010
23:1538717#2
We will find out in time
sue allparties geared up and ready
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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24 January 2010
23:2438718#3
keith
the point i was making was about the disparity in funding.
the reds in order to take advantage of the present situation, have to get the date right.
the last thing they want is for the blues to be able to utilise their vast funds to maximum effect.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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25 January 2010
08:1338723#4
HOWARD
What surprizes me is the fact that both the Conservative and Labour parties are holding debts that go into the millions(more so labour)
I'v never supported state funding for elections, but it does appear unfair that the Tories/Labour can spend into millions on a campaign, and others such as UKIP, lIB Dem etc can only afford a very small fraction of that amount.
keith
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 January 2010
08:3238728#5
Keith - then Labour should not have scared away its donors.... and maybe if they had been somewhat more competent in Government!
Do not take any date mentioned seriously. The decision is Gordon Brown's only and he has great difficulty making those. Chances are he does not know himself yet.
Possible dates:
March 25th
April 8th
May 6th
June 3rd....
The May date would be just days after Q1 2010 figures show another contraction in the economy and that will blight the Brown campaign for May and June.
Those dates also mean a budget and that would be a problem for Labour.
The earlier dates have a lot going for them tactically but against that is Brown's indecision.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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25 January 2010
11:5538745#6
Barry
Is it just a general election this time, or are there local elections too?
True friends stab you in the front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2010
12:5438750#7
local elections are on may 6th.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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25 January 2010
14:0538759#8
Howard nex year for elections locally .
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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25 January 2010
14:2038760#9
I don`t think you gave him enough time to finish Sue, he was going to add 2011.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 January 2010
16:1038766#10
There are local elections this year on May 6th in Boroughs that dont affect us. This is why May 6th is the bookies favourite for the General Election. Politically this is problematical for Brown though due to the economy. March 25th or April 8th would be better as far as the economy is concerned - perhaps.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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25 January 2010
16:3438769#11
Thats what I like Barry you talking up the economy in March and April,well done I knew you would come round to the Labour way eventually
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 January 2010
19:0938775#12
Really John? try reading exactly what I have said, there is nothing that Labour can be oproud of regarding the economy.
Election alert.....
Ministers have been trooping in and out of no10 today so there are rumours that Brown might call an election immediately on the back of the figures being announced tomorrow.
Doing so makes sense from his point of views for the folllowing reasons:
1/ This is likely to be the last hopeful glimmer of 'good' economic news before potential election dates
2/ it saves him from Chilcott before the election
3/ No budget to blow the gaff
Of course he might have decided today but could chicken out by tomorrow......
If he does then he is cutting and running while he gets the chance, before his little bubble bursts.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2010
19:1438777#13
that sounds like fantasy barry, i reckon that there is a lot of bluffing going on here.
i have always said may or june and stick by that.
good news about the economy coming out of recession though, no doubt you will enjoy a glass or two of chilled chablis with your pie and mash tonight.
i listened to day to the PM in waiting talking about fixed term parliaments, he made the valid point that a government with a small majority that then went on to lose a few by-elections, cound end up trying to govern whilst being totally crippled.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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25 January 2010
23:1238813#14
Sadly the good news will be short lived with the economy shrinking again in Q1 howard. Remember as well that a second dip is regarded as likley by many economists with unemployment, a trailing indicator, reaching 3 million (and that was David Blanchflower, who is no Tory sympathiser, far from it). The good news will be when we see some solid economic growth over two or better still three quarters and a substantive plan to cut the deficit by £100bn within a few years, of which at lest £80bn must come from spending cuts.
A weak emergence from the recession, the last major economy to so emerge, is nothing for Brown to be proud about.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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25 January 2010
23:3738818#15
barry
i agree that we are lagging behind coming out of the dip.
do the voters care?
they just see jobs getting safer and more available.
when will the figures come out for the first quarter?
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26 January 2010
07:5738824#16
April 23rd, Howard.... imagine the impact of negative figures then when Brown, after just one quarter of weak growth andthe longest ever recession, has been boasting of an end to it. Just a week or two away from the election day it would have more of a negative impact than any positive impact of todays news.