The Green Economy
- 5 September 2012 15:11190124*Sandys Calls For Greater Support and Consistency For The Green Economy*
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Laura Sandys MP, Member of the Energy and Climate Change Select Committee, has called on the Government to provide the right fiscal framework to support an ambitious energy plan for low carbon growth in an event at Policy Exchange yesterday.
Laura said: "Critics presume 'going green' is a philosophical approach to achieving a 'sandals' economy. But transitioning to a low carbon economic model will be the cheaper option in the medium term when fossil fuels rocket in price and will protect businesses from volatility, while creating jobs. Greening the economy is not a "nice to have" but a total necessity."
"We have a choice in what impact our fiscal measures can support. All energy prices will cost money, so either we re-engineer our economy to compete with the forward looking, future proofing countries like Korea, China and Japan, or we can hold onto an outdated energy model that won't cost us any less but will leave us economically stranded in the past."
"But ultimately, we will drop the word low carbon/renewable because low carbon will be the norm. Instead, the term "fossil" will be used explicitly. There will be widespread recognition that low-input technologies are as much about economic efficiencies, resilience and a modern economic model as they are about decarbonisation in the face of climate change. There is a total convergence on what is good for business and what is good for the environment."
In her speech, Laura raised the following key points:
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1. "Going Green" makes business sense: Going green is not about 'hair shirts', or 'sandal' economies. Green measures will increase productivity, improve output, support greater competitiveness in our manufacturing and processing while sustaining a resilient economy that is lean and keen for the future.
2. We are not on our own in de-carbonising our economy: South Korea, China, Japan and other countries are placing renewable energy and energy efficiencies at the core of their industrial growth strategies. By putting in place the right fiscal framework for green growth, the Government will not be "going it alone" but participating in an international economic cultural change that is already thriving.
3. Clear about the cost of energy: Government must be clear with the household and business consumer that whilst energy demand can be reduced, the unit price of energy will only ever increase. By highlighting the increasingly volatile and high cost of traditional fossil fuels, it will help demonstrate to consumers the imperative need to dramatically improve energy efficiency throughout our whole economy.
4. Energy security through domestic production: We cannot continue to rely on imports from politicised countries to sustain our energy needs. While North Sea Oil and Gas will continue to play a part of our energy mix, these are finite resources and so our economic model must look to domestic renewable sources to ensure UK energy security and energy sovereignty.email: dover7@msn.com - 5 September 2012 15:15190125This is probably one for Philip to get his sceptical teeth into.
You see Philip going GREEN is not just about being 'sandalised' but more about economics and keeping us competitive on the world stage, and keeping our domestic costs down...so says Ms Sandys.email: dover7@msn.com - 5 September 2012 15:31190133ms sandys has a keen interest in this, i believe her dad was instrumental in bringing in "smokeless zones" in his political career.
- 5 September 2012 16:40190136Words fail me. From Wiki:
"....Sandys completed an Open University course on Environment and Development in 1993".
This at a time when open toed sandals and tank top sporting lecturers were a regular feature on the OU. Seems like she's still stuck in a timewarp when lefty pointy heads weren't sure whether or not it was the cold or the heat which would destroy the planet. She opted for the warming option.
This also from Wiki:
"In political jargon, useful idiot is a pejorative term used to describe people perceived as propagandists for a cause whose goals they do not understand, who are used cynically by the leaders of the cause." - 5 September 2012 18:57190161Philip,you do have a way with words.
- 5 September 2012 19:00190163One may assume an alternative green energy development project will be up and running.
Such projects can cost tens of billions of pounds nationwide, so hopefully it's the right one
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 5 September 2012 19:10190167the trouble with philip is that he sits on the fence over these issues.
- 5 September 2012 21:17190182No doubt Philip will like the new Environment Secretary - he has supported fracking and doesn't like wind farms.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9520174/Owen-Paterson-becomes-new-Environment-Secretary.html - 5 September 2012 21:37190190So which strategy is being put forward for Ms. Sandys' call for support and consistency for the Green Economy?Chanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
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Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 5 September 2012 22:57190197Ok not much time here so I'll be quick. To de construct her green dream in mere seconds is too easy. She is still peddling the same old fashioned green energy dream which was fashionable ten or twenty years ago. It's nonsense and only fifth formers in the common room at prom night having hit Daddy's drinks cabinet earlier in the evening would talk the way she and her fellow greenies do.
1.Laura said: "Critics presume 'going green' is a philosophical approach to achieving a 'sandals' economy. But transitioning to a low carbon economic model will be the cheaper option in the medium term when fossil fuels rocket in price and will protect businesses from volatility, while creating jobs. Greening the economy is not a "nice to have" but a total necessity."
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So now she's a clairvoyant eh? Even experts in the commodities markets are unable to predict the price of fuels one month into the future let alone years. The reason why our energy bills have risen is down to environmental taxes and subsidies and fiscal measures brought in to "save the planet". The climate change act will further impoverish us all to the tune of hundreds of billions over the next few years. It is widely recognised as being the most expensive piece of legislation passed in the UK in our history. Every year it leads to the death of the most vunerable in our society whose only choice is to heat or eat.
2."But ultimately, we will drop the word low carbon/renewable because low carbon will be the norm. Instead, the term "fossil" will be used explicitly. There will be widespread recognition that low-input technologies are as much about economic efficiencies, resilience and a modern economic model as they are about decarbonisation in the face of climate change. There is a total convergence on what is good for business and what is good for the environment."
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She's right. Low carbon will be the norm in the UK while other nations including China, India, Germany and others keep building coal fired power stations. The effect this has will be to destroy our economic base. It will finish us. Green Germany who wet their pants about nuclear power post Fukishima now face serious problems with their grid and are building new coal power stations. She also mentions climate change again. She needs to go back to the OU and do a course in faux science. It'll be the making of her.
3."We are not on our own in de-carbonising our economy: South Korea, China, Japan and other countries are placing renewable energy and energy efficiencies at the core of their industrial growth strategies."
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Yes they're not silly these orientals you know. They supply the gullible West with cheap wind turbines and solar panels to the point where solar panel manufacturers in China are employing their workforce at reduced rates to sleep at the factories instead of working as the solar bubble has burst. We put up thousands of useless wind turbines made abroad. How sustainable is that eh? Did someone mention screwdriver economy?
4.". Energy security through domestic production: We cannot continue to rely on imports from politicised countries to sustain our energy needs. While North Sea Oil and Gas will continue to play a part of our energy mix, these are finite resources and so our economic model must look to domestic renewable sources to ensure UK energy security and energy sovereignty."
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Here we go again - peak oil. Pah! Peak oil has been predicted ever since the first barrel was pumped from the ground. It's a scare story and no sensible person believes it.
The ironic thing is that her government boast about increased car manufacturing over here and yet tell us all that they are all things green. If they were that concerned about the planet they would say "NO JOE! We don't want to build your planet destroying motor cars. The same can be said of anything that requires electricity.
Nicolas Stern's report on the devastating effects of climate change which was published and believed by all because he's such a great sage has, the other day, received a damned good fisking from non other than Peter Lilley MP.
He dissects the nonsense that caused such panic and consigned it to the dustbin of failed economic theory.
Read more here:
http://www.thegwpf.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Lilley-Stern_Rebuttal.pdf - 6 September 2012 00:23190198Ahem!
So, having read your report, Philip, does this mean the new green strategy will be based on wind-turbines and solar panels? Oh not that I'm saying it's the right or wrong strategy...
But assuming the Government will go ahead with a green energy strategy, what technology are they basing it upon?
They could invest tens of billions of pounds in something and then discover it doesn't work as they thought...such as the present wind-turbine system which is quite a failure!
My bet is they don't know the answer.
Nuclear in not only dangerous, but faaar to costly. Gov. knows this. It costs far too much to build atom power stations. Oil could be a trap if not only because the supply could be shut off in occasion of some crisis (see Dover Port on this matter too).
The whole transport system could collapse if oil supplies were blocked.
Ms. Sandys seems to have implied this when mentioning sovereignty from politicised countries which export fossil combustibles.
I'm quite curious to see which strategy for clean energy the Government will choose, and how many tens of billions they say will be invested in it, especially considering the failure of the modern wind-turbine
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