howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#1
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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#2
From Press to Squeeze to squash?
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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#3
I think it is inevitable that there will be a huge contraction in the years ahead. it is fairly certain I would think that KM will take over those titles mentioned..ie the Dover Express among them. So that will lead to a contraction here in Dover. KM unlikely to keep two titles going.
But where will it all end. Websites static and on the go are clearly the coming media, but the solution has not as yet been found as to how to make them pay ( with the exception of the huge ones at the top of the pile of course).
Take the link above..thats a paid story written by a paid journalist. He gets a wage. Those links would disappear if newspapers disappeared because all the web is free, who would pay the journalist to write the story in the first place?
Our good friend Mr Murdoch has taken a stand and charged for some of his websites, the Times I believe being one, but traffic has slumped as a result. So not ideal, but somewhere along the line some things will just have to be paid for.
#4
I use the internet, have a blog, follow lots of things, and use it for business as well as pleasure - but nothing beats a newspaper! I feel deprived if I have not read at least a Telegraph and a Guardian each day. There is something about press and print.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#5
I agree. Newspapers also bring out the best - and worst, and strangest - behaviour in people. One of my brothers-in-law is an emeritus professor at Cambridge. He is so left wing his views would embarrass Keith. The only newspaper he will allow on view in the house is the Guardian (although I suspect he reads the others in secret). BUT when he has a point to make (and he is sufficiently well known in academic circles for any letter to be published) he writes to a paper whose owners, nay, whose whole existence he despises. Yes you guessed it, the Times!
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#6
the times gets a mention twice on this thread, i did start a thread on why the times charge when the others don't.
i was speaking to rhys(slayer of the mighty) griffiths the other day and asked him his opinion and he pointed out that though the times may not have many internet hits because of the paying thing, advertisers knew that the ones that did subscribe would be of a certain social group and would be a more attractive target. i may have over simplified what he said but you get the gist.
Keith Sansum1
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#7
PETER;
Sure you expect a reply.
I rarely buy any papers national or loca,
with ragard to the express, i share little sympathy for many of its staff who have been led by its editor to destroy individuals(or attempt to)
I hope any incoming new owner, will bring the express back to being a community paper, one that doesnt sensationalise, and one that gets its facts correct and pics of correct places etc.,
A small point peter, although i lean to the left, i have mellowed over the years, but more of a free thinker these days, although my beliefs remain
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#8
like yourself keith i lean to the left.
i put it down to buying cheaply made trousers.
#9
Speaking as one who is leaning slightly to the left following an excessively large G&T a few moments ago, I ought to say that one thing I have learned as I have grown older is that politics and beliefs are two very different beasts..................
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#10
BERN;
At times they can be
howard;
to true matey
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#11
Keith yet the other week i read you wanting the help of the dover express then again you turn like your earlier posts , mel is good friends of several of the dover express etc and they are human beings doing a job i really dont understand why you have such an attitude towards them .
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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#12
It's the job not the person. I also have friends in the meeja and from time to time one of them stitches me up. But not twice.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
#13
When I first moved to Dover I bought both of the local papers as I believe its the best way to get to know a new neighbourhood and familiarise myself with amenities and local events. I very quickly stopped buying the Express as at times it felt. Like I was intruding on a private conversation with its in jokes and innuendo about local figuresin some of the articles and leaders I realise that is a personal feeling but its just not a style I identify with
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#14
you must be referring to the "dubris" column in the express sarah.
not to everybody's taste, can be funny at times depends whether you know who they are referring to.
both newspapers are very different in style and have their own afficianados.
#15
I think thats the issue for me Howard , I dont like the nudge nudge wink wink type of half story it made me feel alienated from the publication , as if it was a secret only those "in the know" could understand.
Guest 656- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#16
Post 6 Howard, I remember a few years back whilst running our advertising business, some of our major photographic clients would request some obscure titles with very small circulation figures in which to place their latest advertising campaign. This was indeed because of the social standing of their membership, quality over quantity, and they would pay a fortune for the privilege.
#17
Quality over quantity is a good premise.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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#18
i think post 12 and 13 give most of the answers on my distaste for the express
but not for some of the reporters who have to do as there paymaster requires
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Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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#19
We know it as the Dover Star....
Been nice knowing you :)