The Economjst article on Dover
- 24 June 2011 15:43111702
- 24 June 2011 16:07111705A good read Andrew.
Didn't realise that a French Company was the frontrunner for buying the ''Peoples Port''.Marek
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24 June 2011 16:10111707its what ive been saying all along marek. - 24 June 2011 16:11111708Very true Brian..
but I thought you were just taking the mick.Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 24 June 2011 16:12111710Yes a very good read Andrew.Fascinating...it is staggering to find just how much of our utilities and facilities are owned by our fellow Europeans, the French in particular. They supply water, heat, rubbish collection, railways...and thats just in Dover. Still us Brits (!) always have our soggy cardboard Weetabix to call our own...or do we. I had Weetabix this morning too...just like the bog standard guy in the article.email: dover7@msn.com
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24 June 2011 16:12111711not this time marek. - 24 June 2011 16:14111712Thank you Andrew. Interesting.
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24 June 2011 16:14111713Very good read"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - 24 June 2011 16:16111714From the article...
The British version of economic truth might be:
chronic underinvestment is the problem, foreign capital the solution.email: dover7@msn.com - 24 June 2011 16:20111716i would be most interested in who the french business is, the article was hardly a great advert for dover again .
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24 June 2011 16:21111717but nothing said was untrue or for that matter an exageration"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - Brian Dixon
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24 June 2011 16:25111719howard,my hunch is the port of calias,but there again it might not be. - 24 June 2011 16:28111722they denied interest straight from the outset brian, however things change and they might have been bluffing.
in the early stages the selling price was an unknown quantity. - Brian Dixon
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24 June 2011 16:30111723howard,that was my genral thinking. - 25 June 2011 00:13111783I read the article, and have this to comment:
The term "Europeans" might be out of place in as much that the French actually call themselves French, and never say "we are Europeans".
Likewise, the Dutch refer to themselves as Netherlanders (Nederlander, also: Hollander). They simply do not call themselves "Europeans".
No people in Europe goes about saying "we are Europeans".
Here in Britain, a wrong impression is given by many newspapers, when they insistently harp on calling everyone in Europe "Europeans", although no-one in Europe calls themselves by this name.
It would be a bit like going to India and Burma and calling everyone "Asians".
That I know of, only the people of the USA call themsleves Americans, by the name of their continent.
As for the French and Dutch, I don't mind them running some services here in England, but I WILL refer to them as French and DutchChanters, Drums and Drones Potty Time http://youtu.be/99fMqpjnXYA
Rule Britannia!
Kent First http://youtu.be/04F3mAP3fV4 Keep banging on http://youtu.be/qYCU_SKmkGQ - 25 June 2011 01:16111785Whatever rocks you boat Alex. You can call them Martians for all I care but whatever way you address them it does not escape the fact that most of our essential services are owned and run by foriegn concerns. Instead of worrying about what the Dutch or French call themselves you should be more concerned with what happens to all the money they make. It goes out of this country to investors in Europe who then spend or re-invest it in their own country.
So the UK end up paying not only for essential services but indirectly subsisdising theirs.Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 25 June 2011 07:46111802But the advantage to us is that those locally employed by these International Corporations spend their earnings here; we in turn should be making sure that our Town is where they want to spend it.
There should be someone employed (for a real term not short-term) to work on a whole range of projects and initiatives to make the Town cleaner, brighter and more welcoming to visitors, cruise passengers and residents alike.
I have tried for two Chambers of Commerce, but neither are really interested in the Town or it's welfare and progress, just the value their membership brings them.
They also both suffered from a lack of financial support from the main stake-holders - DTC, DDC and DHB.
Whether it is me (not likely anymore) or someone else, all the millions being invested in various regeneration projects, won't make a difference to the town if nothing is done.
Roger - 25 June 2011 10:50111817It was an interesting article, although a misconception appears to have permeated this thread in as much as it is DHB's privatisation that has a 'French firm' as front runner and not the 'Peoples Port'. The Peoples Port will source it's finance through the city, some of which will probably include foreign investors seeking a long term regular payment rather than control.
Alexander uses the example of Americans being the only ones who refer to themselves by the continent on which they live. A point to remember here is that they also have a great deal of foreign investment in their infrastructure, a lot of it Japanese.
The one truly global thing in our modern world is finance. Investors seek stable returns and good returns for their cash wherever they can find it irrespective of national borders.Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour