The Eagle
- 16 June 2010 23:1656626In answer to Alec's question......
"As Howard says "a real pub has resurfaced in Dover and doing well". On the other side of the coin I heard yesterday that the Eagle has closed. Perhaps Jeanette knows something about it as it is on her patch as a member of LRCF.
No cracks please about "the Eagle has landed"
It's positively taken flight Alec!
All we know at the LVA is that The Eagle closed Sunday evening and they're now looking for someone to take over and be open again by July. When I say "they're", I'm unsure whether that is the brewery or the current licencee, who has already bought in several managers so far.
It would be a crying shame to see the pub close indefinitely because wiith regards to history, it is much the same as The White Horse.I know a million ways to always pick the wrong thing to say - Ross Miller
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16 June 2010 23:3856627It has had a chequered recent history and has certainly of late been closed more often than not when I walk past around 7ish on my way home from work.
On top of that, or perhaps because of it, it has a strange and very small clientèle
But what do I know, given that I don't drink"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - 17 June 2010 07:4456641It's in a prominent location, so should have done well.
Hope it doesn't close for too long.
I won't pass any comments on how it was run as it isn't my business, but it would/should have been a great place to take a drink before going for a curry next door at the Taste of India.
Roger - 17 June 2010 09:1556645It use to be the hive of activity in the 70s & 80s with a coal fire in the lounge serving home cooked food mainly to pensioners and on Saturdays it was hard to find a seat. I really hope someone steps in it has great potential.Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 17 June 2010 09:5756657An advert from 1900:
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Lincolnshire Born and Bred - 17 June 2010 10:3756671Jeez Kath youre a treasure for sure.
3 gallons of beer for 1s and 9d..that could get Tesco worried!
email: dover7@msn.com - 17 June 2010 10:4256675I found the Eagle a strange pub indeed. It appears to be a huge building but a tiny pub, almost like a Tardis in reverse. Needless to say it is a poor quality establishment with a very small clientele.
- 17 June 2010 10:5756678Ah, Paul, but Tesco would oppose the sale of that much beer for that price as encouraging under age binge drinking. Sanctimonious pillocks!True friends stab you in the front.
- 17 June 2010 14:4956700Strange organisation Tesco. Just go through the front doors up at Whitfield and be met by cheap offers on beer, cider, wine, spirits. Sanctimonious is one word, but I prefer HYPOCRITS!
- 17 June 2010 20:2056771I prefer real ale..............................
- 25 June 2010 01:3357846On the plus side, I met the new landlord of The Castle Inn yesterday who says he'll be opening in about a month's time so there is good news! I really hope that The White Horse, Blakes and The Castle can work together as a nice little circuit for our punters - dependant on the clientele of course because the latter has always appealed to the younger generation in the past.
I've always thought CAMRA'S estimation of 39 pubs closing a week to be a rather dubious figure as they don't take re-openings into account, but that figure has come down from 52 in 2009.
I know this subject has been argued more than a few times on the forum but I don't believe any single factor, such as no smoking, rising unemployment or price increases are to blame for pub closures but more a combination. In fact I'd probably opt more towards the last-mentioned because let's face it, a good night out down the pub these days is no cheap event!
Then we have the lazy publicans, those that expect everything to drop in their laps without making any effort whatsoever but then moan like mad when it doesn't work and are forced to close. The civil minded amongst us could say that those pubs didn't meet the customer's needs, the others would just call them crap!
Pubs are not the establishments that they once were and never will be again. Customers expect so much more now and the publican has to be willing to offer every service that they possibly can to cater for their needs because those with 'Tesco mentality' will think nothing of buggering off to the nearest Wetherspoons!
Best of luck to the Castle inn anyway, I really hope it works out for them and if DITZ ever does begin, they'll be laughing their socks off!
I know a million ways to always pick the wrong thing to say - 25 June 2010 01:4357847Great news about the Castle.Hope it goes well.We used to do that 'circuit' Castle-White Horse-Dover Stage-Brittania-Elephant & Hind -Prince Regent back in the late 70's We then used to finish up at the New Mogul with old Nellie? and her coal fire before waddling home.
As for your other point about Bar Staff...to be honest some of them are so grumpy and surly it puts you off going in to the boozer.If I wanted to be miserable I could have stayed indoors.Other staff make you feel as if they are doing you a 'favour' by serving you!Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter) - 25 June 2010 09:2557871The EAGLE GARDENS, in the past, appears to have been a popular place for masquerades (masked soirees?). Here is a report of one:
Masquerade at the Eagle Gardens:
Betsy NASH, singlewoman, attired in male apparel, charged with creating a disturbance at the Royal Mortar. No one appearing against the defendant it was stated she had been to a Masquerade in the Eagle Gardens and appeared before the bench in her dress as "a nice young man"; was dismissed with a caution not to again appear in such unsuitable attire! (Dover Telegraph Sat.1.1.1848 p.8 col.1)
[ Betsy Nash, who made regular appearances in the Dover Police Court for stealing appears to have caused quite a stir in her male attire! ]
and report of another masquerade (NOT at the Eagle) 45 years earlier...
The Masquerade on Thursday night suffered a considerable drawback on the amusement which SOME OF ITS ATTENDANTS had promised to themselves by the absence of a soldier of the 4th Regiment, William COUSE, who was taken in the act of dressing in woman's attire for the Opera House and carried before Sir Richard FORD on a charge of felony, by whom he was committed to the House of Correction. It appears this fellow has been in the constant habit, with several associates of a similar description, of attending masquerades in the dress of women. (Kentish Gazette 2 Mar 1802 back page col.3 near the bottom)
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Lincolnshire Born and Bred - 25 June 2010 09:4057877interesting stuff kath, ms nash sounds like a great local character.
not heard of the dover telegraph before. - Brian Dixon
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25 June 2010 15:4157907i heard through the grapevine that the pantry is reopening as the central cafe in the next few weeks. - 25 June 2010 16:3757913The refurbished Boar's Head with it's new landlord is a joy to behold. Living only 6 doors away I feel I am on the set of Coronation Street and before I am compared to Ken Barlow by those that know me.....
- 26 June 2010 01:4958008hmm..i dont think i have EVER been in the Eagle.. and for those of you who know me well enough should be able to agree.. that is a rare thing in the pubs in Dover..
Castle, used to drink in there before i was allowed to really..
Used to be part of the circuit we did of Castle, Quay, Poo, Nelson and then that one that is now shut on by Burlington.. with maybe the Ellie and Bells in between.. ahhh to be young again adn be able to drink that much and not wake up clutching ones head..
Nowadays I am more of a White Horse gal.. when I am home of course.. - 26 June 2010 08:2458032Howard -
re: Dover Newspapers, some information
Dover newspapers on film at Dover Reference Library, Dover Discovery Centre, Market Square, Dover, Kent, CT16 1PH (enclose sae for reply), telephone (01304) 204241 or: doverlibrary@kent.gov.uk.
Newspapers there (on film) (not indexed), include: Dover Express (started 1858), Dover Telegraph (started Nov 1833), Cinque Ports Herald for 1825-26,
The Cinque Ports herald was the first Dover-published newspaper, a lot of maritime news especially. The Dover Telegraph is very useful to researchers, started Nov 1833, about 25 years before the Dover Express (started 1858). Before the Dover-published papers, the main paper for Kent was the Kentish Gazette, published in Canterbury, started in the 1700s which contained not only Canterbury, and he rest of Kent, but rest of Britain and worldwide news.
a few other Dover papers (late 1800s, early 1900s), are also on film at Dover ref library
ie. Dover Chronicle, Dover Standard, Dover Times, Dover Observer, etc. Some of these papers include: Dover Chronicle 30 May 1840-Dec 1841, Dover Standard: 1901, 1910, 1914, 1919, 1925, 1927, 1930, part 1931; Dover Standard Kentish Advertiser & Colliery News for 1914 to 1919;
Dover Times 1905 to 1907, 1911 to 1914, Dover Observer 1896, 1898, 1899, 1902. When sending an enquiry, give as much detail as possible, certainly the date if you wish to find an event. If something is found in the newspapers, Dover Reference Library could no doubt supply a photocopy for a small charge (a few years' newspapers have been indexed c.Dover Telegraphs 1833 - 39 and 1850-51)
Kentish Gazette newspapers are on film at Canterbury reference library,
Dover and Canterbury libraries can usually supply photocopies from their films.
Newspapers can also be consulted at the British Library of Newspapers:
web-site: http://www.bl.uk/aboutus/quickinfo/loc/colindale/index.html E-mail: newspapers@bl.uk
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