Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#1
Yes, thats right. A teenager in Liverpool did the right thing when he found a mobile phone in the street. He went around to the police station and handed it in as lost property.
He was kept waiting around a while and then arrested for 'theft by finding'.
Finger prints, DNA samples, kept in a cell and released with no charge.
This is the mad world that we now live in, you cannot do even the right thing without being persecuted.
By that action who on earth will do the right thing again? If I find something in the street will I bother to hand it in? No, leave it there in the road.
Then look at what else has been happening. Burglars getting let off with warning while a Councillor who makes an amusing and harmless joke in a Council meeting gets 'a talking to' by police because it is reported as 'homophobic'.
We see time and time again cases where upright citizens get into trouble when dealing with young thugs or other criminals.
Then there was that house fire where the police prevented neighbours from entering the house to save the occupants. Clearly therefore the police were there, no doubt throwing a cordon around the burning building and doing nothing themselves to rescue the occupants. There was obviously enough time for the neighbours to realise that the police were not going to enter the building to want to try themselves. But Health and Safety intervened. There was a time when no self respecting police officer would have stood by and would have been in the building to rescue those at risk immediately they knew someone was inside. Yes they would have risked their lives, generations of police officers have done so, sometime have succeeded and at other times have perished themselves, but not now in this age of 'ealth and safety. Any officer who broke those rules would have been risking more than his life, if he survived he would have risked losing his job no doubt, under the cosh of the beaurocrats.
There was a time when we had policing by consent. Common sense and good judgement went along with upholding the law and the police were aware of the need to keep the ordinary members of the public 'on-side' to help the fight against crime.
But real crime, of course, is now considered to be a trivial matter compared to thought crime or the wrong type of humour. The loonatics have taken over the police force (sorry service, worse luck). The worse thing a policeman can do is break the rules laid down by the beaurocrat, rules designed less to protect the public than to protect the backs of senior officers.
So who on earth in their right mind would now go out of the way to help the police? They really are out to throw away the goodwill of the people who they should be serving and protecting but are now intent on persecuting.
#2
We live in a rather fascistic country these days. I saw a remarkable documentary a while back in which some guy was moved on by the police for taking innocent home video footage of a public monument, because of anti-terrorism suspicions, even though the individual pointed out that there were over 37 CCTV cameras pointing at the entire area at any one time. Now, only the authorities can actually record video footage without raising alarm bells.
Another guy was arrested, fingerprinted, DNA recorded, the whole works, for having his WORK TOOLS in his car. This is worrying - I am a graphics worker and I often have my graphics tools in my car (which includes some sharp instruments and craft knives).
It seems to me that our government pass tough laws to protect the public and all too often the police use these laws to bully innocent people, probably to make sure that their paperwork hits various targets.
It SUCKS!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#3
I couldn't agree more; our society is being killed by PC attitudes, elf and safety and a dumbing down of people too scared to do the right thing.
No one can say no to children any more; they tell us what we can do; there's no guidelines, just a scary future for us all.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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#4
We don't have full details of the Liverpool case and its the tabloids which says a lot sdo won't comment on that.
On the issue of a fire it realy comes down to individual but the authorities would be wrong to let others go into a burniing building as they mayt create or get into difficulties and that would just create even more problems.
Its about realy the individual and ok people like to be hero's but sometimes being the hero can make the situation even worse.
I know there are a number of heros out there, but sometimes you have to think are you doing thre right thing
Sid Pollitt
#5
It's easy to judge when you dont know the full facts, hopefully we'll continue trying people in courts rather than in tabloids. Maybe we should try and hug these youngsters a little more.
Brian Dixon
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#6
yep agreed as long as its a boa constrikter.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#7
I bet you never thought that Sid when David Cameron said it - hug a hoodie that is.
Roger
Sid Pollitt
#8
I was partly being ironic.
#9
Part irony, part luvvie - a wonderful hybrid.