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    But in the real world Brian no-one like paying taxes and will work to minimise what they have to pay using a wide range of legal methods, it is human nature. Those who use illegal methods are criminals and should be dealt with accordingly.

    We are talking in this thread about our tax code being so big and complex that even HMRC do not fully understand it and keep on making cock-ups. They do it all the time on individuals not just companies.

    By reducing and simplifying taxes governments will collect it more efficiently and there will be less room for illegal tax dodging. That is the point.

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