howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we are priviliged to have the president of pakistan visiting our country now.
he served 10 years in the jug for fraud prior to reaching the position he holds today.
he is known as mr 10 per cent because of a penchant for skimming off of every business deal going.
the running joke in lahore and karachi is that a mugger holds him up and demands all of his money, he exclaims that he is the president of the country, the robber then says "ok, give me all of my money then".
i hasten to add that we at the forum do not go along with this and view him as a decent honourable and very litigious man.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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But should he be here when his country is drowning ?
Roger
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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He has been a Naughty Boy, pandering to both sides on the terrorist front, the trouble is they are big customers of ours on the armament front.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i did wonder why we kept in with pakistan.
business is business after all.
roger
that is the question many people in his country are also asking.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Americans pump vast amounts of money into Pakistan in an effort to keep it westernised and to keep a political hold in the region, and although successive governments there in Pakistan want to keep this aid coming in, great swathes of the actual population themselves are very pro Taliban in their outlook. The state needs the aid but the hearts and minds of the population are along traditional lines. The government and the leaders never seem to be at one with the population in this country hence the heavy price it pays in assasinations and whathaveyou.
Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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PaulB, if you changed Pakistan to Vietnam and Taliban to Communist, and if you had written the above in 1964, you would have been equally accurate. Militant Islam is the new Communism. Now that Communism poses no threat, the Americans still need their bogeyman and something for their armed forces to occupy themselves with.
PG.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Peter Garstin,
"American war dead in europe, numbered in the thousands, european war dead in America NIL"
I think that brings it into perspective dont you think??
Dont be so quick to denegrate the one nation you owe your peace and prosperity to, or are you one of those people who are always willing to moan but when it comes to doing something nasty leave it to a nation that has the courage of their convictions.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Mr long I agree with what you are saying100% we woud not have won the war without their help nor would we if it happen again the west needs the U,S,A, and it is a good thing that they are on our side They do not need us never have never will do.
Vic,
I shall note this date in my diary of events worth remembering,
I.E.
The date we are in complete agreement!!
Paul B,
I think if you look at the political situation in this country it differs little from the situation in Pakistan.
There government as is ours, are never in agreement with the population as a whole, when you remember that this clutch of scoundrels were elected into office by a minority, and a nonentity?? I of course am referring to the liberal boot lickers!!
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I,m not sure why he is in the UK when his fellow countrymen are dying in their hundreds and millions homeless thanks to the recent flooding.His duty lies at home during this emergency not staying at a 5 star hotel in London.
Thevisit could have easily been re-arranged at a later and more appropriate date.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Maybe it makes sense for him to be here. Pakistan needs billions in aid from the West, he can arrange that better in London rather than in some Rawalpindi slum.
Jimmy, you overlook the thousands of European and other war dead from 9/11, unles of course abject terrorism doesn't count as war in your book of definitions.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the thing that intrigues me is the resemblance the president has to our own ronnie corbett.
you never see them together, do you?
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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Why is it America pumping all that money into Pakistan reminds me of the millions they poured into the Taliban during the Russian occupation?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Sorry about the flooding but I'm damned if I'm going to give money to a country which can afford to stockpile nuclear weapons but not tents...................
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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we are getting our own back though, giving them a right pasting at cricket.
Can I just remind us that we PAID the Americans to enter WWII? They were in effect our employees at that time and we only recently completed paying the debt accrued by their wages.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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that's right bern, i remember gordon when he was chancellor making the final payment.