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    paulb
    sadly barryw still believes his torygraph/central office stuff
    thats fine but in the real world the UK has to decide in or out of europe,
    david cameron is either playing a different game to different audiences or he doesnt know the way forward.

    The lib dems used to be the masters of telling audiences what they want to know, they changing for the next audience.

    david cameron has said we will remain in the E.U and rightly challenge decisions they make, but even the opposition from our david is often luke warm.

    tories need to be clear what it is they want to do on the E.U

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